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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Paul Menage <menage@google.com>, Li Zefan <lizf@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Matt Helsley <matthltc@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	lennart@poettering.net, harald@redhat.com, david@fubar.dk,
	greg@kroah.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH, v10 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller
Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:34:45 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111014233445.GA28092@shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111014154348.ae6267aa.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 03:43:48PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:15:29 +0300
> "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
> 
> > Every task_struct has timer_slack_ns value. This value uses to round up
> > poll() and select() timeout values. This feature can be useful in
> > mobile environment where combined wakeups are desired.
> > 
> > Originally, prctl() was the only way to change timer slack value of
> > a process. So you was not able change timer slack value of another
> > process.
> > 
> > cgroup subsys "timer_slack" implements timer slack controller. It
> > provides a way to set minimal timer slack value for a group of tasks.
> > If a task belongs to a cgroup with minimal timer slack value higher than
> > task's value, cgroup's value will be applied.
> > 
> > Timer slack controller allows to implement setting timer slack value of
> > a process based on a policy. For example, you can create foreground and
> > background cgroups and move tasks between them based on system state.
> 
> I'm having trouble understanding the value of this feature.  Users can
> presently control the timer-slack of a group of processes via
> inherit-over-fork.
> 
> Perhaps there's a case for providing a way for process A to set process
> B's slack.  And perhaps B's children.  That would be a simpler patch
> and would have the considerable advantage that it doesn't require
> cgroups.
> 
> So.... why should we merge this?

Putting a task to a cgroup isn't change task's timer slack, it may affect
"effective timer slack", if min timer slack for the cgroup > task's timer
slack.

Since we don't touch task's slack value we can drag tasks between cgroups
and always get the most relaxed slack value for a task without
saving/restoring it in userspace.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-14 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-11 16:15 [PATCH, v10 0/3] Introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 1/3] hrtimer: introduce effective timer slack Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 2/3] hrtimer: implement PR_GET_EFFECTIVE_TIMERSLACK Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:15 ` [PATCH, v10 3/3] cgroups: introduce timer slack controller Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-11 16:49   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2011-10-14 22:43   ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-14 23:34     ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2011-10-15 11:20     ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-15 19:11       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17  1:39         ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-17  3:22           ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17  5:21             ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-10-17  7:36               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17  9:38                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-10-17 12:46                   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 13:06                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:11                       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 14:28                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:35                           ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-10-17 14:45                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:40                           ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 14:49                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 14:59                               ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 15:11                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:19                                   ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 15:21                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:31                                       ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 16:36                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 16:49                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2011-10-17 15:48                                       ` Alan Cox
2011-10-17 16:33                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 15:18                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17  7:34             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 13:55               ` Lennart Poettering
2011-10-17  7:28           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-10-17 19:46             ` Valdis.Kletnieks

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