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From: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Seiji Aguchi <seiji.aguchi@hds.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg@redhat.com>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"Chen, Gong" <gong.chen@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"ak@linux.intel.com" <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	"hughd@chromium.org" <hughd@chromium.org>,
	"mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"jmorris@namei.org" <jmorris@namei.org>,
	"a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl" <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"namhyung@gmail.com" <namhyung@gmail.com>,
	"dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net" 
	<dle-develop@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	Satoru Moriya <satoru.moriya@hds.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH -next] make pstore/kmsg_dump run after stopping other cpus in panic path
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:22:29 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111017172229.GH5795@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <987664A83D2D224EAE907B061CE93D5301EE911C66@orsmsx505.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 09:56:50AM -0700, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > All this lock busting probably isn't pretty and causes one to reflect what
> > is going on here.  But as long as we are going to keep the kmsg_dump
> > design, changes like this seem necessary to make sure the locking stays
> > sane(r) for now.
> 
> So should we let the back-end know that locks have been busted?  I worry
> that we'll get through the pstore layer by blasting away at any locks that
> get in our way - but then the backend (which may well have been written on
> the assumption that pstore serialized calls to it) will not do anything
> useful (and may cause its own hang).

I was kinda alluding to something like that, when I said we probably need
follow on patches to clean up the backend.  But maybe it would be smarter
to set a flag in pstore to let the backend know we busted the locks
instead of letting them do panic checks themselves.  I agree with your
concerns.

I really can't think of a good overall solution other than slowly
step-by-step untangle things by making subtle changes, this round being
the serialization of kmsg_dump().

My brain is to small to figure this out.  I keep thinking about making an
ascii art diagram to see all the various paths and their contexts, but
then I keep finding more interesting things to do. :-)

Perhaps we should do that and make some rules about what the back-end can
and can not do when plugging into kmsg_dump.

Cheers,
Don


  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-17 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-14 20:53 [RFC][PATCH -next] make pstore/kmsg_dump run after stopping other cpus in panic path Seiji Aguchi
2011-10-17  6:21 ` Chen Gong
2011-10-17 14:10   ` Seiji Aguchi
2011-10-18  7:28     ` Chen Gong
2011-10-17 16:09 ` Don Zickus
2011-10-17 16:56   ` Luck, Tony
2011-10-17 17:22     ` Don Zickus [this message]
2011-10-17 17:34       ` Seiji Aguchi
2011-10-17 23:47 ` Andrew Morton
2011-10-18 12:49   ` Don Zickus
2011-10-18 14:52     ` Seiji Aguchi
2011-10-18 15:10       ` Don Zickus
2011-10-20 15:13         ` Seiji Aguchi
2011-10-20 17:48           ` Don Zickus
2011-10-20 18:39             ` Seiji Aguchi

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