From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751760Ab1JUSmq (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:42:46 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.214.46]:34954 "EHLO mail-bw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751584Ab1JUSmp (ORCPT ); Fri, 21 Oct 2011 14:42:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 22:42:39 +0400 From: Cyrill Gorcunov To: Tejun Heo Cc: Pavel Emelyanov , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" , Andrey Vagin , James Bottomley , Glauber Costa , "H. Peter Anvin" , Ingo Molnar , Dave Hansen , "Eric W. Biederman" , Daniel Lezcano , Alexey Dobriyan , Linus Torvalds , Oleg Nesterov Subject: Re: [patch 5/5] elf: Add support for loading ET_CKPT files Message-ID: <20111021184239.GI31508@moon> References: <20111014110416.552685686@openvz.org> <20111014110511.670174429@openvz.org> <20111014171033.GC4294@google.com> <20111014173304.GD4294@google.com> <4E9E9255.7090601@parallels.com> <20111019182228.GJ25124@google.com> <20111019195632.GB14464@moon> <20111021182610.GB28670@google.com> <20111021183628.GH31508@moon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111021183628.GH31508@moon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:36:28PM +0400, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote: ... > > > I think this comes back to why one-stop-solution-in-kernel is a bad > > idea for CR. My impression is that when people say "that would > > require too many small API updatesa", it usually means that they > > haven't really thought about each necessary piece enough and just Don't claim such things, Tejun. Yes, I'm missing a number of things (the same applies to you as well), but this patch was not 'just a fast way to achieve what we need'. It's rather an attempt to gather all things I've missed and provide more robust/solid version at the next iteration (regargless which form this patch appeared, complete user-space solution, some kernel api extension of whatever). > > hacked something up lumpy and fuzzy on the edges. The thing is that > > no matter how you lump them, those problems don't go away and > > attacking things in small understandable API pieces not only ensures > > the update itself makes sense and may be useful for others too but > > also forces people to actually think about each problem. > > > Cyrill