From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753541Ab1JXHgP (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:36:15 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f46.google.com ([209.85.214.46]:39549 "EHLO mail-bw0-f46.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753404Ab1JXHgN (ORCPT ); Mon, 24 Oct 2011 03:36:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 09:36:04 +0200 From: Grant Likely To: Linus Walleij Cc: Mike Frysinger , Linus Walleij , Stephen Warren , Sascha Hauer , Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Joe Perches , Russell King , Linaro Dev , Lee Jones , David Brown , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Stijn Devriendt Subject: Re: [PATCH] drivers: create a pin control subsystem v8 Message-ID: <20111024073604.GA8708@ponder.secretlab.ca> References: <1317211419-18472-1-git-send-email-linus.walleij@stericsson.com> <20110930020754.GK12606@ponder.secretlab.ca> <20111004203520.GK2870@ponder.secretlab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 09:26:38AM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 16:35, Grant Likely wrote: > >> On Sat, Oct 01, 2011 at 12:39:21PM +0200, Linus Walleij wrote: > >>> 2011/9/30 Grant Likely: > >>> > I'm not convinced that the sysfs approach is > >>> > actually the right interface here (I'm certainly not a fan of the gpio > >>> > sysfs i/f), and I'd rather not be putting in unneeded stuff until the > >>> > userspace i/f is hammered out. > >>> > >>> Actually, thinking about it I cannot see what would be wrong > >>> with /dev/gpio0 & friends in the first place. > >>> > >>> Using sysfs as swiss army knife for custom I/O does not > >>> seem like it would be long-term viable so thanks for this > >>> observation, and I think we need /dev/gpio* put on some > >>> mental roadmap somewhere. > >> > >> Agreed.  I don't want to be in the situation we are now with GPIO, > >> where every time I look at the sysfs interface I shudder. > > > > the problem with that is it doesn't scale.  if i have a device with > > over 150 GPIOs on the SoC itself (obviously GPIO expanders can make > > that much bigger), i don't want to see 150+ device nodes in /dev/. > > that's a pretty big waste.  sysfs only allocates/frees resources when > > userspace actually wants to utilize a GPIO. > > I was more thinking along the lines of one device per GPIO controller, > then you ioctl() to ask /dev/gpio0 how many pins it has or so. And there is also the question of whether it is even a good idea to export pinctrl manipulation to userspace. g.