From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Artem S. Tashkinov" <t.artem@lycos.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>
Subject: Re: HT (Hyper Threading) aware process scheduling doesn't work as it should
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:18:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111103081835.GA9330@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <269467866.49093.1320004632156.JavaMail.mail@webmail17>
( Sorry about the delay in the reply - folks are returning from and
recovering from the Kernel Summit ;-) I've extended the Cc: list.
Please Cc: scheduler folks when reporting bugs, next time around. )
* Artem S. Tashkinov <t.artem@lycos.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It's known that if you want to reach maximum performance on HT
> enabled Intel CPUs you should distribute the load evenly between
> physical cores, and when you have loaded all of them you should
> then load the remaining virtual cores.
>
> For example, if you have 4 physical cores and 8 virtual CPUs then
> if you have just four tasks consuming 100% of CPU time you should
> load four CPU pairs:
>
> VCPUs: {1,2} - one task running
>
> VCPUs: {3,4} - one task running
>
> VCPUs: {5,6} - one task running
>
> VCPUs: {7,8} - one task running
>
> It's absolutely detrimental to performance to bind two tasks to
> e.g. two physical cores {1,2} {3,4} and then the remaining two
> tasks to e.g. the third core 5,6:
>
> VCPUs: {1,2} - one task running
>
> VCPUs: {3,4} - one task running
>
> VCPUs: {5,6} - *two* task runnings
>
> VCPUs: {7,8} - no tasks running
>
> I've found out that even on Linux 3.0.8 the process scheduler
> doesn't correctly distributes the load amongst virtual CPUs. E.g.
> on a 4-core system (8 total virtual CPUs) the process scheduler
> often run some instances of four different tasks on the same
> physical CPU.
>
> Maybe I shouldn't trust top/htop output on this matter but the same
> test carried out on Microsoft XP OS shows that it indeed
> distributes the load correctly, running tasks on different physical
> cores whenever possible.
>
> Any thoughts? comments? I think this is quite a serious problem.
If sched_mc is set to zero then this looks like a serious load
balancing bug - you are perfectly right that we should balance
between physical packages first and ending up with the kind of
asymmetry you describe for any observable length is a bug.
You have not outlined your exact workload - do you run a simple CPU
consuming loop with no sleeping done whatsoever, or something more
complex?
Peter, Paul, Mike, any ideas?
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-03 8:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-10-30 19:57 HT (Hyper Threading) aware process scheduling doesn't work as it should Artem S. Tashkinov
2011-10-30 21:26 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-30 21:51 ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2011-10-31 9:16 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-10-31 9:40 ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2011-10-31 11:58 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-11-01 4:14 ` Zhu Yanhai
2011-11-01 5:15 ` ffab ffa
2011-10-31 18:59 ` Chris Friesen
2011-11-01 6:01 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-10-30 22:12 ` Arjan van de Ven
2011-10-30 22:29 ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2011-10-31 3:19 ` Yong Zhang
2011-10-31 8:18 ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2011-10-31 10:06 ` Con Kolivas
2011-10-31 11:42 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-01 0:41 ` Con Kolivas
2011-11-01 0:58 ` Gene Heskett
2011-11-01 5:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2011-11-03 8:18 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-11-03 9:44 ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2011-11-03 10:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-11-03 12:42 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2011-11-03 13:06 ` Artem S. Tashkinov
2011-11-03 13:00 ` Mike Galbraith
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