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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com,
	patches@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 24/28] rcu: Introduce bulk reference count
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 13:19:12 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111103201912.GA31590@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111103133435.GB2287@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 06:34:35AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 09:34:41PM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 01:30:45PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > The RCU implementations, including SRCU, are designed to be used in a
> > > lock-like fashion, so that the read-side lock and unlock primitives must
> > > execute in the same context for any given read-side critical section.
> > > This constraint is enforced by lockdep-RCU.  However, there is a need for
> > > something that acts more like a reference count than a lock, in order
> > > to allow (for example) the reference to be acquired within the context
> > > of an exception, while that same reference is released in the context of
> > > the task that encountered the exception.  The cost of this capability is
> > > that the read-side operations incur the overhead of disabling interrupts.
> > > Some optimization is possible, and will be carried out if warranted.
> > > 
> > > Note that although the current implementation allows a given reference to
> > > be acquired by one task and then released by another, all known possible
> > > implementations that allow this have scalability problems.  Therefore,
> > > a given reference must be released by the same task that acquired it,
> > > though perhaps from an interrupt or exception handler running within
> > > that task's context.
> > 
> > This new bulkref API seems in dire need of documentation. :)
> > 
> > > --- a/include/linux/srcu.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/srcu.h
> > > @@ -181,4 +181,54 @@ static inline void srcu_read_unlock(struct srcu_struct *sp, int idx)
> > >  	__srcu_read_unlock(sp, idx);
> > >  }
> > >  
> > > +/* Definitions for bulkref_t, currently defined in terms of SRCU. */
> > > +
> > > +typedef struct srcu_struct bulkref_t;
> > > +int init_srcu_struct_fields(struct srcu_struct *sp);
> > > +
> > > +static inline int init_bulkref(bulkref_t *brp)
> > > +{
> > > +	return init_srcu_struct_fields(brp);
> > > +}
> > 
> > Why can't this call init_srcu_struct and avoid the need to use the
> > previously unexported internal function?
> 
> Seems reasonable now that you mention it.  ;-)

Except that doing so results in lockdep initialization that cannot be
used.  :-(

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-03 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-02 20:30 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/28] Preview of RCU changes for 3.3 Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 01/28] powerpc: Strengthen value-returning-atomics memory barriers Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 02/28] rcu: ->signaled better named ->fqs_state Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 03/28] rcu: Avoid RCU-preempt expedited grace-period botch Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 04/28] rcu: Make synchronize_sched_expedited() better at work sharing Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 05/28] lockdep: Update documentation for lock-class leak detection Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  2:57   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 19:42     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-09 14:02       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-10 17:22         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 06/28] rcu: Track idleness independent of idle tasks Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 07/28] trace: Allow ftrace_dump() to be called from modules Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 08/28] rcu: Add failure tracing to rcutorture Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 09/28] rcu: Document failing tick as cause of RCU CPU stall warning Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  3:07   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 13:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 10/28] rcu: Disable preemption in rcu_is_cpu_idle() Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 11/28] rcu: Omit self-awaken when setting up expedited grace period Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  3:16   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 19:43     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 12/28] rcu: Detect illegal rcu dereference in extended quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 13/28] rcu: Inform the user about extended quiescent state on PROVE_RCU warning Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 14/28] rcu: Warn when rcu_read_lock() is used in extended quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 15/28] rcu: Remove one layer of abstraction from PROVE_RCU checking Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 16/28] rcu: Warn when srcu_read_lock() is used in an extended quiescent state Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 17/28] rcu: Make srcu_read_lock_held() call common lockdep-enabled function Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  3:48   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 11:14     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-11-03 13:19       ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-03 13:30         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03 13:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03 13:59         ` Steven Rostedt
2011-11-03 20:14           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 18/28] nohz: Separate out irq exit and idle loop dyntick logic Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 19/28] nohz: Allow rcu extended quiescent state handling seperately from tick stop Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  4:00   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 11:54     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-11-03 13:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03 15:31         ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 16:06           ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-09 14:28             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-09 16:48             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-11-10 10:52               ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-10 17:22               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-15 18:30                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-11-16 19:41                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 20/28] x86: Enter rcu extended qs after idle notifier call Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 21/28] x86: Call idle notifier after irq_enter() Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 22/28] rcu: Fix early call to rcu_idle_enter() Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 23/28] powerpc: Tell RCU about idle after hcall tracing Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 24/28] rcu: Introduce bulk reference count Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  4:34   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 13:34     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03 20:19       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2011-11-28 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 17:15     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-28 18:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-28 18:31         ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-28 18:35           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-29 13:33             ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-29 17:41               ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-28 18:36           ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 25/28] rcu: Deconfuse dynticks entry-exit tracing Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 26/28] rcu: Add more information to the wrong-idle-task complaint Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 27/28] rcu: Allow dyntick-idle mode for CPUs with callbacks Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  4:47   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 19:53     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-02 20:30 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 28/28] rcu: Fix idle-task checks Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03  4:55   ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 21:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2011-11-03 23:05       ` Josh Triplett
2011-11-09 14:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-11-03  4:55 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/28] Preview of RCU changes for 3.3 Josh Triplett
2011-11-03 21:45   ` Paul E. McKenney

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