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From: Joerg Roedel <Joerg.Roedel@amd.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	<linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu: Include MSI susceptibility to DMA in creating iommu groups
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:27:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111118152710.GA5098@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1321628190.26410.63.camel@bling.home>

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 07:56:30AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> As you say, the interface is to tell userspace what devices the IOMMU
> can safely distinguish between.  On x86, the IOMMU cannot distinguish
> DMA to the interrupt region between devices without interrupt remapping.
> Therefore, to only expose devices we can safely distinguish between, we
> shouldn't expose any devices by default if we don't provide this
> isolation.  The interrupt remapping capability of the IOMMU isn't
> exposed to userspace, nor should userspace need to make the leap in
> understanding how MSIs are generated on a specific platform and whether
> interrupt remapping is required to provide isolation.

But the isolation domains are different. The iommu-group interface is
about device isolation and interrupt remapping is about DMA address
space isolation (MSI range vs. the rest). The iommu can still
distinguish between devices when it can not distinguish between DMA and
MSI interrupts.
So what you want to do belongs to the VFIO driver or (as it is today)
into the KVM device assignment code and not into the iommu-group
interface.

Regards,

	Joerg

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-18 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-17 17:09 [PATCH] iommu: Include MSI susceptibility to DMA in creating iommu groups Alex Williamson
2011-11-18  4:37 ` Kai Huang
2011-11-18  5:40   ` Alex Williamson
2011-11-18  6:20     ` Kai Huang
2011-11-18 10:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2011-11-18 14:56   ` Alex Williamson
2011-11-18 15:27     ` Joerg Roedel [this message]
2011-11-18 16:32       ` Alex Williamson
2011-11-20 12:00         ` Joerg Roedel
2011-11-21  4:39           ` Kai Huang
2011-11-21 23:35           ` Chris Wright
2011-11-23 10:56             ` Joerg Roedel
2011-11-23 20:12               ` Chris Wright
2011-11-23 18:37             ` Alex Williamson

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