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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@hack.frob.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with given pids
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 22:16:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111122211645.GA21608@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111121225019.GQ25776@google.com>

On 11/21, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> > +static int pid_ns_ctl_handler(struct ctl_table *table, int write,
> > +		     void __user *buffer, size_t *lenp, loff_t *ppos)
> > +{
> > +	struct ctl_table tmp = *table;
> > +	tmp.data = &current->nsproxy->pid_ns->last_pid;
> > +	return proc_dointvec(&tmp, write, buffer, lenp, ppos);
> > +}
>
> Probably better to call set_last_pid() on write path instead?

I am not sure... set_last_pid() is "special", it tries to avoid the
races with itself to prevent the pid-reuse. It doesn't hurt, but
perhaps

	set_last_pid(pid_ns, pid_ns->last_pid, new_pid);

looks a bit confusing.

Hmm. On the second thought, perhaps this makes sense anyway. Just
to keep the "only set_last_pid() can change ->last_pid" property.

But this is almost cosmetic.

> > Well, after a bit more thinking I found one more pros for this
> > sysctl - when restoring a container we'll have the possibility to
> > set the last_pid to what we want to prevent the pids reuse after the
> > restore.
>
> Hmmm... I personally like this one better.  Restoring multilevel pid
> would be more tedious but should still be possible and I really like
> that it's staying out of clone path and all modifications are to ns
> and pid code.  Oleg, what do you think?

Obviously, I'd prefer this one too ;)

But. Personally I do not like the fact that only init can open this
file for writing... (I guess Pavel already hates me ;)

If we add this sysctl, then I think there should be some way to use
outside of "checkpoint-restore" world. For example, see the comment
from Pedro. This use-case looks unexpected (to me), but reasonable.
Or. Say, set_last_pid can be useful to test the pid-reuse races.

In any case. To me, it is not really good to have /proc/*/set_last_pid
without the ability to use it somehow on the running system.

Oleg.


      parent reply	other threads:[~2011-11-22 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-17 11:41 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with given pids Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 11:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] pids: Make alloc_pid return error Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 11:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] pids: Split alloc_pidmap into parts Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 11:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] pids: Make it possible to clone tasks with given pids Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 15:32   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 15:49     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 16:00       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 17:28   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-17 19:04     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 18:36   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-18 10:05     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 15:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create " Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 16:01   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 16:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-18 23:30     ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-21  9:15       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-21 22:50         ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 11:11           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-22 12:04             ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-22 15:33               ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-23 16:20                 ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-23 16:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-23 17:26                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-23 17:37                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-23 18:19                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-23 20:14                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-24 17:31                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-25 10:14                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-25 16:22                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-25 16:44                               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-25 16:54                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-25 17:03                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-25 22:36                                     ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-27 16:24                                       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with?given pids Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-27  9:41                             ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with given pids Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-11-27 17:34                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-27 18:47                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-28 10:38                               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-28 16:25                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 15:23             ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 15:29               ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 16:30               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-22 16:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-22 19:29                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-01-26 23:28                   ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-22 21:16           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]

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