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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@parallels.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Pedro Alves <pedro@codesourcery.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	James Bottomley <jbottomley@parallels.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with given pids
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:54:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111125165409.GA19238@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ECFC5E3.5090900@parallels.com>

On 11/25, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>
> On 11/25/2011 08:22 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 11/25, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
> >>
> >> The proposal is to implement the PR_RESERVE_PID prctl which allocates and puts a
> >> pid on the current. The subsequent fork() uses this pid,
> >
> > Oh. This is subjective, yes, but this doesn't clean to me.
> >
> > Amd why?? On the running system PR_RESERVE_PID can obviously fail anyway.
> > It only helps to avoid the race with another fork.
>
> No. It can fail if you try to allocate a pid with given number. The API allows for
> pid generation. AFAIU this can help with Pedro's requirements to resurrect task with
> the same pid value it used to have before.

Yes gdb can do fork() in a row (until it unreserves the pid) and the
pid will be the same.

OK, I misunderstood. I thought you insist that PR_RESERVE_PID itself
is reliable.

But this can only work in the simplest case. How you can restore the
multithread tracee? You need to unreserve/reserve the previous pid,
and we have the same problems again, no?

> > Yes, and this task_struct->rsv_pid acts as implicit parameter for the
> > next clone(). Doesn't look very nice to me. Plus the code complications.
>
> Well, the last_pid is also an implicit parameter for the next clone() with sysctl
> approach :)

Yes. but it is already here ;)

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-25 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-17 11:41 [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with given pids Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 11:42 ` [PATCH 1/3] pids: Make alloc_pid return error Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 11:42 ` [PATCH 2/3] pids: Split alloc_pidmap into parts Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 11:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] pids: Make it possible to clone tasks with given pids Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 15:32   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 15:49     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 16:00       ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 17:28   ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-17 19:04     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 18:36   ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-18 10:05     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 15:49 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create " Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-17 16:01   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-17 16:02     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-18 23:30     ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-21  9:15       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-21 22:50         ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 11:11           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-22 12:04             ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-22 15:33               ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-23 16:20                 ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-23 16:24                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-23 17:26                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-23 17:37                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-23 18:19                     ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-23 20:14                       ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-24 17:31                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-25 10:14                           ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-25 16:22                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-25 16:44                               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-25 16:54                                 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2011-11-25 17:03                                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-25 22:36                                     ` Pedro Alves
2011-11-27 16:24                                       ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with?given pids Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-27  9:41                             ` [RFC][PATCH 0/3] fork: Add the ability to create tasks with given pids Konstantin Khlebnikov
2011-11-27 17:34                               ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-11-27 18:47                             ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-28 10:38                               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-28 16:25                                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 15:23             ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 15:29               ` Tejun Heo
2011-11-22 16:30               ` Pavel Emelyanov
2011-11-22 16:44                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-11-22 19:29                   ` Pavel Emelyanov
2012-01-26 23:28                   ` Kay Sievers
2011-11-22 21:16           ` Oleg Nesterov

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