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From: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Chen Peter-B29397 <B29397@freescale.com>
Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	"gregkh@suse.de" <gregkh@suse.de>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"stern@rowland.harvard.edu" <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"hzpeterchen@gmail.com" <hzpeterchen@gmail.com>,
	Igor Grinberg <grinberg@compulab.co.il>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] driver core: disable device's runtime pm during shutdown
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:09:25 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111205160925.753d7e22@notabene.brown> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35AB98346D25394A9354ED89C4D76587228E65@039-SN1MPN1-002.039d.mgd.msft.net>

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On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 03:29:24 +0000 Chen Peter-B29397 <B29397@freescale.com>
wrote:

>  
> > 
> > Hi,
> >  this patches causes a problem for me.
> > 
> > Specifically it makes it impossible to power-down a device which uses
> > twl4030
> > for power control on an omap3 processor.
> > 
> > To perform the shutdown we need to send a command over the i2c bus.
> > The relevant bus is called omap_i2c.1 and this is normally in suspend
> > mode.
> > When a request is sent, omap_i2c_xfer uses pm_runtime_get_sync to wake it
> > up,
> > performs the transfer, then calls pm_runtime_put to let it go back to
> > sleep.
> > 
> > So it is asleep when the new pm_runtime_disable() call is made, so it
> > stays
> > asleep, omap_i2c_xfer cannot wake it, the transfer doesn't happen and the
> > system doesn't get powered off.
> > 
> > So here is a device that should *not* have pm disabled at shutdown.
> > 
> > So I feel this fix is a little too heavy-handed.
> > I don't fully understand the problem scenario described above but it
> > seems to
> > me that if the auto-suspend timer can fire after the hardware has been
> > shut
> > down, then maybe the hardware-shutdown should be disabling that timer.
> > Maybe?
> > 
> Oh, I am sorry to cause your problem. I think it may not be easy to handle this
> kinds of problem well. 
> 
> In my opinion, it is better to handle shutdown/suspend SYNC at device drivers.
> Since the pm core is hard to know driver's shutdown is finished, and vice versa.
> 
> 1. Driver needs to has relationship between suspend/shutdown, like usb host,
> hcd needs to know downstream port's suspend, and usb core needs to know hcd's shutdown. 
> 
> 2. At driver's shutdown
> static void xxx_driver_shutdown(struct platform_device *pdev)
> {
> 	if (supports_autosuspend(&pdev->dev) {
> 		pm_runtime_cancel_pending(&pdev->dev);
> 		wait_xxx_driver_suspend(pdev); /* need to sync with driver's suspend */
> 	}
> 	real_shutdown();		
> }
>

I think that makes sense to me.
It might be reasonable to call pm_runtime_barrier() in device_shutdown() to
make it a bit easier for the ->shutdown function, but the final
synchronisation should probably happen right there where you suggest.

It seems that driver->shutdown() is called from other places than just
device_shutdown(). If a ->driver_shutdown function was allowed to assume that
pm_runtime has been disabled, all of those call points would need to disable
pm_runtime, which doesn't seem like the right way to go.

Thanks,
NeilBrown



Thanks,
NeilBrown

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      reply	other threads:[~2011-12-05  5:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-14  0:43 [PATCH 1/1] driver core: disable device's runtime pm during shutdown Peter Chen
2011-11-14  9:54 ` Ming Lei
2011-11-14 22:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-11-14 22:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-11-15  0:59   ` Greg KH
2011-11-15 23:16     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-12-04 21:56       ` NeilBrown
2011-12-05  2:42         ` Alan Stern
2011-12-05  3:37           ` NeilBrown
2011-12-05  3:26         ` Ming Lei
2011-12-05  4:42           ` Chen Peter-B29397
2011-12-05  5:12             ` Ming Lei
2011-12-05  9:01               ` Ming Lei
2011-12-05  9:05                 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-05 16:02                   ` Alan Stern
2011-12-05 18:35                     ` NeilBrown
2011-12-05 20:55                       ` Alan Stern
2011-12-05 22:32                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-12-06 15:26                           ` [PATCH] Driver core: leave runtime PM enabled during system shutdown Alan Stern
2011-12-06 21:34                             ` NeilBrown
2011-12-06 21:48                             ` Greg KH
2011-12-06 22:05                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-12-06 22:03                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-12-05  4:53           ` [PATCH 1/1] driver core: disable device's runtime pm during shutdown NeilBrown
2011-12-05  5:53             ` Chen Peter-B29397
2011-12-05  8:08               ` NeilBrown
2011-12-05  8:32                 ` Chen Peter-B29397
2011-12-05  8:52                   ` NeilBrown
2011-12-05  3:29         ` Chen Peter-B29397
2011-12-05  5:09           ` NeilBrown [this message]

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