From: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To: Andreas Oberritter <obi@linuxtv.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
HoP <jpetrous@gmail.com>, Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage?
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 13:49:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111207134848.GB18837@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EDE2B3B.2080905@linuxtv.org>
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 03:48:27PM +0100, Andreas Oberritter wrote:
> On 06.12.2011 15:19, Mark Brown wrote:
> > Your assertatation that applications should ignore the underlying
> > transport (which seems to be a big part of what you're saying) isn't
> > entirely in line with reality.
> Did you notice that we're talking about a very particular application?
*sigh*
> VoIP really is totally off-topic. The B in DVB stands for broadcast.
> There's only one direction in which MPEG payload is to be sent (using
> RTP for example). You can't just re-encode the data on the fly without
> loss of information.
This is pretty much exactly the case for VoIP some of the time (though
obviously bidirectional use cases are rather common there's things like
conferencing). I would really expect similar considerations to apply
for video content as they certainly do in videoconferencing VoIP
applications - if the application knows about the network it can tailor
what it's doing to that network.
For example, if it is using a network with a guaranteed bandwidth it can
assume that bandwidth. If it knows something about the structure of the
network it may be able to arrange to work around choke points.
Depending on the situation even something lossy may be the answer - if
it's the difference between working at all and not working then the cost
may be worth it.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-07 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-30 21:38 [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage? HoP
2011-11-30 21:52 ` Michael Krufky
2011-12-01 0:09 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-01 11:04 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-01 14:58 ` HoP
2011-12-01 17:38 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-01 19:59 ` HoP
2011-12-01 20:38 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-01 22:55 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 11:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-02 11:48 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 11:57 ` HoP
2011-12-02 17:33 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-02 17:49 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2011-12-02 18:16 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 18:28 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-02 23:19 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-03 0:37 ` HoP
2011-12-05 10:21 ` Florian Fainelli
2011-12-05 14:28 ` HoP
2011-12-05 15:16 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-05 15:18 ` Michael Krufky
2011-12-06 0:16 ` HoP
2011-12-05 17:39 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-05 20:41 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-05 20:55 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-05 21:20 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-05 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-06 11:18 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-06 12:01 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 13:10 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 13:35 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 14:38 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 15:06 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 15:36 ` Manu Abraham
2011-12-06 11:21 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-06 12:01 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:19 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-06 14:48 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 13:49 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2011-12-07 14:01 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 16:10 ` Mark Brown
2011-12-07 16:56 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 16:58 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-07 21:48 ` Patrick Dickey
2011-12-07 22:53 ` Honza Petrouš
2011-12-07 23:24 ` Peter Kolta
2011-12-07 23:55 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-11 18:45 ` Peter martin
2011-12-12 10:31 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-06 17:19 ` Manu Abraham
2011-12-06 0:07 ` HoP
2011-12-06 13:22 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 13:49 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:19 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2011-12-06 15:05 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 14:20 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2011-12-06 15:00 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-06 17:35 ` HoP
2011-12-03 16:13 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-03 16:42 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-03 17:38 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-03 17:21 ` VDR User
2011-12-03 17:42 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-03 17:48 ` Devin Heitmueller
2011-12-04 23:54 ` HoP
2011-12-03 18:13 ` Hans Petter Selasky
2011-12-05 0:05 ` HoP
2011-12-03 18:17 ` Andreas Oberritter
2011-12-03 23:30 ` Walter Van Eetvelt
2011-12-04 0:14 ` VDR User
2011-12-04 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-04 23:22 ` HoP
2011-12-05 1:45 ` VDR User
2011-12-05 6:20 ` HoP
2011-12-02 18:32 ` VDR User
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