From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:53:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111211155347.GA1297@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1112111459270.3020@ionos>
* Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Dec 2011, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > In theory a kvm driven serial console should be extremely
> > fast, much faster than a real serial console, basically as
> > fast as a local console. Yet this still does not seem to be
> > the case.
> >
> > In fact even ssh-ing in to a box over Wifi and running the
> > above top session is undistinguishable from top running in a
> > local console. So IMO it cannot be virtualization overhead -
> > there must still be some delay or serious lack of buffering
> > somewhere.
>
> Well, the difference between ssh and serial is, that ssh can
> pack 1.5k worth of data into one frame, while serial has to
> send it piecewise. And the emulation has to trap into kvm tool
> for each tx byte, which doesnt help either. We cannot do much
> with buffering on the kvm tool side as we have no clue how
> much consecutive data will come in. That's why there is a
> virtual console, which has the disadvantage that you cant see
> the early boot messages.
Okay, but look at it from another angle: the top output i
generate is about 300k characters. 5000 msecs to execute it
means 16 usecs overhead per character - or about 50k cycles - on
a top of the class x86 CPU.
50k cycles for every single byte. And as a user i notice that
first hand.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-11 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-10 13:27 [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 1/3] kvm tool: serial: Cleanup coding style Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 2/3] kvm tool: serial: Simplify switch cases Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 13:27 ` [patch 3/3] kvm tool: serial: Fix interrupt handling Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-10 15:17 ` [patch 0/3] kvm tool: Serial emulation overhaul Pekka Enberg
2011-12-10 20:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-11 8:15 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-11 10:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-11 10:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-11 14:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-11 15:53 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-12-12 5:30 ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 11:20 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 17:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 18:16 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 18:16 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 21:36 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-13 10:32 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 11:23 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-12-12 17:40 ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 17:45 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 9:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-12 11:19 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 17:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-12 18:40 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 19:14 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-12 19:21 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-13 0:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13 7:03 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-13 11:05 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-13 10:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-13 13:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13 14:23 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-13 14:30 ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-13 14:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-12-13 14:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 21:03 ` James Courtier-Dutton
2011-12-12 18:19 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 18:31 ` Pekka Enberg
2011-12-13 10:33 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 10:27 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 10:59 ` Sasha Levin
2011-12-12 11:02 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-12 18:21 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-12 17:21 ` Ingo Molnar
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