From: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.de>
To: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
gregkh@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ostrikov@nvidia.com,
adobriyan@gmail.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] kref: Remove the memory barriers
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 12:15:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201112121215.56645.oneukum@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVNUGTu-gF=jkNg37cmc1wKFvycYojs96VS8eowyLsJ8fg@mail.gmail.com>
Am Montag, 12. Dezember 2011, 11:32:58 schrieb Ming Lei:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>
> > I don't know the driver model, and I don't plan to start learning it
> > now. But if what you said is possible its broken and no memory barriers
> > will fix it.
>
> IMO, you don't need to learn it, and my example is very simple and common
> kref usage in device drivers, :-)
>
> Could we only focus on it and see what is problem? and why won't memory
> barrier fix it?
You don't have a CPU ordering problem. If CPU A can do a kfree() you need to
make sure CPU B doesn't get a pointer to that object. Basically your race is:
CPU A CPU B
p = a;
p = a;
p->counter--;
if (!p->counter) kfree(p);
a = NULL;
p->counter++;
This is not an ordering problem. You have a real critical section here.
It doesn't matter when CPU B sees the decrement.
You must make sure there are no pointers to objects you might free
if you intend to use the pointers without locks.
Regards
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-12 11:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-10 10:43 [PATCH 0/3] kref: inline and barriers Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-10 10:43 ` [PATCH 1/3] kref: Inline all functions Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-10 14:32 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-10 14:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-12 22:11 ` Greg KH
2011-12-13 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-13 17:15 ` Greg KH
2011-12-13 18:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-13 19:11 ` Greg KH
2011-12-13 19:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-10 10:43 ` [PATCH 2/3] kref: Implement kref_put in terms of kref_sub Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-10 10:43 ` [PATCH 3/3] kref: Remove the memory barriers Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-10 14:07 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-10 14:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-10 15:57 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-10 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-11 2:22 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-11 12:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-11 12:59 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-11 15:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-11 20:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-12 3:48 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-12 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-12 9:57 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-12 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-12 10:32 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-12 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-12 11:19 ` Ming Lei
2011-12-12 11:13 ` Eric Dumazet
2011-12-12 11:15 ` Oliver Neukum [this message]
2011-12-12 10:20 ` Oliver Neukum
2011-12-12 19:30 ` Greg KH
2011-12-12 22:56 ` Oliver Neukum
2011-12-12 23:14 ` Greg KH
2011-12-13 11:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2011-12-13 9:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-13 9:49 ` Oliver Neukum
2011-12-12 8:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-12 15:24 ` Greg KH
2011-12-12 8:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-12 10:10 ` Ming Lei
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