From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753911Ab1LLTa6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:30:58 -0500 Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:44779 "EHLO out2.smtp.messagingengine.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753227Ab1LLTa5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:30:57 -0500 X-Sasl-enc: I7PJ1ZI9sKgau0+wEBreJGAL1/qhYCl9h3Mlg6OHvDHH 1323718251 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:30:40 -0800 From: Greg KH To: Oliver Neukum Cc: Ming Lei , Peter Zijlstra , gregkh@suse.de, akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ostrikov@nvidia.com, adobriyan@gmail.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, mingo@elte.hu Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] kref: Remove the memory barriers Message-ID: <20111212193040.GA13131@kroah.com> References: <20111210104341.592561407@chello.nl> <1323680078.16764.45.camel@twins> <201112121120.16326.oneukum@suse.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201112121120.16326.oneukum@suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 11:20:16AM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote: > Am Montag, 12. Dezember 2011, 10:57:31 schrieb Ming Lei: > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:54 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:48 +0800, Ming Lei wrote: > > >> For kref, maybe it is still multiple operations done on one cpu vs them > > >> being visible on another, but seems a bit implicit, see the common kref > > >> usage below: > > >> > > >> CPU0 CPU1 > > >> A:kref_init(&obj->ref) > > > > > > how does CPU0 get a ref to obj? > > > > Suppose open/close/read/.. context is run on CPU0, and driver .probe/.release > > context(hotplug context) is run on CPU1. There are a few examples on > > usb driver(eg. usb-skeleton.c, ...) > > USB generally relies on an implied barrier just as: > > /* we can register the device now, as it is ready */ > retval = usb_register_dev(interface, &skel_class); > > Generally reference counting cannot help you if kfree() is involved So, Oliver, you don't have any objection to this patch removing the barriers in kref, right? Originally you added them, I just wanted to make sure before I applied this. thanks, greg k-h