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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>
To: Colin Walters <walters@verbum.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, morgan@kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	luto@mit.edu, kzak@redhat.com, Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: chroot(2) and bind mounts as non-root
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 23:11:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111212231149.GA16408@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1323708089.29338.39.camel@lenny>

Quoting Colin Walters (walters@verbum.org):
> But it was pretty trivial to modify my tool to make a MS_NOSUID bind
> mount over /:
> 
>       mount (NULL, "/", "none", MS_PRIVATE | MS_REMOUNT | MS_NOSUID,
> NULL);
> 
> That's hopefully enough to plug that hole (right?), albeit not in a

Heh, yeah I think that suffices :)

...

> Looks to me like the MS_NOSUID bind mount prevents acquisition of file
> capabilities too.

Yup.

> I experimented with dropping all capabilities from the capability
> bounding set, but the API seems a bit lame in that CAP_LAST_CAP is
> encoded in the kernel capability.h, but if an old binary is run on a new
> kernel, I might silently fail to drop a newly added capability.  Right?

Look at the cap_get_bound.3 manpage, and look for CAP_IS_SUPPORTED.
If you start at CAP_LAST_CAP and keep going up/down depending on whether
it was support or not it shouldn't take too long to find the last
valid value.  Not ideal, but should be reliable.

> Steve Grubb's "libcap-ng" appears to not handle this scenario at all;
> Steve, am I missing something?
> 
> Anyways, in the big picture here I think this tool is now pretty safe to
> install suid root, since we rely on MS_NOSUID to close all privilege

I haven't taken a critical look at the mount code but other than that
it seems reasonable and useful to me!  Thanks.

> escalation mechanisms today from plugging in a USB drive, which is
> effectively "user controls arbitrary filesystem layout".
> 
> But getting in Eric's patch for disabling suid binaries from a process
> tree would be really nice.  Alan, do you still object?  Your main issue
> seemed to be that it should be in a LSM, but the suid issue does span
> existing LSMs.  And as far as adding restrictions introduces new attack
> vectors, pretty much all of those are abusing suid binaries, precisely
> what we just want to axe off entirely.

-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-12 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-07 17:54 chroot(2) and bind mounts as non-root Colin Walters
2011-12-07 19:36 ` John Stoffel
2011-12-08 16:10   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-08 18:14     ` John Stoffel
2011-12-08 18:26       ` Colin Walters
2011-12-09  0:49         ` Sven-Haegar Koch
2011-12-09 14:55         ` John Stoffel
2011-12-09 15:06           ` Colin Walters
2011-12-08 17:04   ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-08 17:15     ` Colin Walters
2011-12-07 19:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2011-12-08 16:58   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-07 20:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-12-07 20:54   ` Alan Cox
2011-12-15 18:55     ` Andrew G. Morgan
2011-12-16 15:44       ` Colin Walters
2011-12-18  1:22         ` Andrew G. Morgan
2011-12-18 15:19           ` Colin Walters
2011-12-10  5:29 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-12-12 16:41   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-12 23:11     ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2011-12-15 20:56       ` Colin Walters
2011-12-16  6:14         ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-12-18 16:01           ` Colin Walters
2011-12-19  0:55             ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-12-19  4:06               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2011-12-19  9:22                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2011-12-20 16:49                   ` Colin Walters
2011-12-20 21:23               ` Colin Walters
2011-12-21 18:15           ` Steve Grubb
2012-01-03 23:13             ` Eric W. Biederman

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