Re: ext4 data=writeback performs worse than data=ordered now

Wu Fengguang
2011-12-14T14:59:35Z

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:30:14PM +0800, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 09:34:00PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Shaohua recently found that ext4 writeback mode could perform worse
> > than ordered mode in some cases. It may not be a big problem, however
> > we'd like to share some information on our findings.
> >
> > I tested both 3.2 and 3.1 kernels on normal SATA disks and USB key.
> > The interesting thing is, data=writeback used to run a bit faster
> > than data=ordered, however situation get inverted presumably by the
> > IO-less dirty throttling.
>
> Interesting. What sort of workloads are you using to do these
> measurements? How many writer threads; I assume you are doing
> sequential writes which are extending one or more files, etc?

Yes it's mostly simple dd's, and some fio workloads.

The test scripts and fio jobs can be found in

https://github.com/fengguang/writeback-tests

For example, the run_dd() in
https://github.com/fengguang/writeback-tests/blob/master/dd-common.sh

and some fio jobs:
https://github.com/fengguang/writeback-tests/blob/master/fio_fat_rates
https://github.com/fengguang/writeback-tests/blob/master/fio_fat_mmap_randwrite_4k
https://github.com/fengguang/writeback-tests/blob/master/fio_fat_mmap_randwrite_64k

The meanings in the dirs:

hostname dirty_background_bytes
| dirty_bytes | FS data=writeback
| | | | | # of dd tasks
| | | | | | kernel version
fat/thresh=1000M:999M/ext4:wb-100dd-1-3.1.0+
|
1st test run
(each test can be repreated several times)

> I suspect it's due to the throttling meaning that each thread is
> getting to send less data to the disk, and so there is more seeking
> going on with data=writeback, where as with data=ordered, at each
> journal commit we are forcing all of the dirty pages out to disk, one
> inode at a time, and this is resulting in a more efficient writeback
> compared to when the writeback code is getting to make its own choices
> about how much each inode gets to write out at at time.
>
> It would be interesting to see what would happen if in
> ext4_da_writepages(), we completely ignore how many pages are
> requested to be written back by the writeback code, and just simply
> write back all of the dirty pages, and see if that brings the
> performance back.

I can provide more tracing data or test patches on your request.
But for now, I have to go to bed :-)

Thanks,
Fengguang