From: Pierre Habouzit <pierre.habouzit@intersec.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kivity <avi@qumranet.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched: allow preempt notifiers to self-unregister.
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:42:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111216174216.GC4569@madism.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1324056787.18942.118.camel@twins>
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 06:33:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 18:25 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 06:09:45PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 17:15 +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > > > Hence I install those callbacks for the thread registering themselves
> > > > and want to keep them until the thread dies. Sadly I have no way to
> > > > unregister those callbacks right now, but for horrible hacks (involving
> > > > private delayed queues processed regularly walked to kfree() the
> > > > structures referencing pids that are dead, urgh).
> > >
> > > kfree_rcu() is the 'normal' way to cheat your way out of this.
> >
> > Hmm, if when I'm scheduled "out" with the TASK_DEAD bit set, am I sure
> > the _in/_out callback will never ever be called again?
>
> Yep.
Good then kfree_rcu (or call_rcu if I need more at some point) is good
enough, which is nice because it will allow me to run on "any" kernel
whether my patch is ever applied or not.
> > It experimentally seems that the answer is yes, but I'm not familiar
> > enough with the scheduler to be a 100% sure. If yes then kfree_rcu is
> > just fine indeed and I don't need the patch, at all.
> >
> > If it's not "sure" then I assume I can probably use call_rcu() but that
>
> kfree_rcu() is a convenient macro wrapped around call_rcu().
Yes I've seen, what I meant was a shortcut for "if kfree_rcu isn't
allowed because I may kfree() callbacks still registered and that _in or
_out events could be still fired then I'll write something that safely
unregisters callbacks from a longer call_rcu" :)
I reckon this "shortcut" wasn't obvious for the reader. But I won't need
that since you answered "yes" to my previous question.
> > looks like a total overkill for something that can be fully avoided with
> > my patch, which incidentally, doesn't slow the typical sched path (there
> > should be no callbacks and the _safe iterator exits as fast as the non
> > safe iterator).
>
> Ah, you're right, I thought it frobbed the extra variable too, but
> looking at it it only does that when there's anything on the list.
Yeah that's the reason why I submitted the patch in the first place
since it doesn't change the performance for the usual case. But well,
given your answers, I don't really care whether it's applied or not
anymore, I still find it cumbersome that people couldn't unregister from
a callback, that's really something that I expected to work :) It may be
worth a comment in preempt.h to save some experimenters a kernel panic
or two :P
Thank you for your answers.
(for the story but well, I understand you couldn't care less, it sadly
caused me a kernel panic and 2 subsequent ones because btrfs kind of
didn't like the panics. Okay, I've got the message, I've been a lazy boy
to develop kernel code for almost the first time directly in my running
linux instead of a qemu :P)
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Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-16 16:15 [PATCH] sched: allow preempt notifiers to self-unregister Pierre Habouzit
2011-12-16 17:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-16 17:25 ` Pierre Habouzit
2011-12-16 17:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-16 17:42 ` Pierre Habouzit [this message]
2011-12-18 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 10:26 ` Pierre Habouzit
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