From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: avi@redhat.com, nate@cpanel.net, cl@linux-foundation.org,
oleg@redhat.com, axboe@kernel.dk, vgoyal@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] block, mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool and fix blkcg percpu alloc deadlock
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:14:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111222171432.e429c041.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111222235455.GT17084@google.com>
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 15:54:55 -0800 Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 03:41:38PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > All the code I'm looking at assumes that blkio_group.stats_cpu is
> > non-zero. Won't the kerenl just go splat if that allocation failed?
> >
> > If the code *does* correctly handle ->stats_cpu == NULL then we have
> > options.
>
> I think it's supposed to just skip creating whole blk_group if percpu
> allocation fails, so ->stats_cpu of existing groups are guaranteed to
> be !%NULL.
What is the role of ->elevator_set_req_fn()? And when is it called?
It seems that we allocate the blkio_group within the
elevator_set_req_fn() context?
(Your stack trace in the "block: fix deadlock through percpu allocation
in blk-cgroup" changelog is some unuseful ACPI thing. It would be
better if it were to show the offending trace into the block code).
> > a) Give userspace a new procfs/debugfs file to start stats gathering
> > on a particular cgroup/request_queue pair. Allocate the stats
> > memory in that.
> >
> > b) Or allocate stats_cpu on the first call to blkio_read_stat_cpu()
> > and return zeroes for this first call.
>
> Hmmm... IIRC, the stats aren't exported per cgroup-request_queue pair,
> so reads are issued per cgroup. We can't tell which request_queues
> userland is actually interested in.
Doesn't matter. The stats are allocated on a per-blkio_group basis.
blkio_read_stat_cpu() is passed the blkio_group. Populate ->stats_cpu
there.
Advantages:
- performs allocation with the more reliable GPF_KERNEL
- avoids burdening users with the space and CPU overhead when they're
not using the stats
- avoids adding more code into the mempool code.
> > c) Or change the low-level code to do
> > blkio_group.want_stats_cpu=true, then test that at the top level
> > after we've determined that blkio_group.stats_cpu is NULL.
>
> Not following. Where's the "top level"?
Somewhere appropriate where we can use GFP_KERNEL. ie: the correct
context for percpu_alloc().
Separately...
Mixing mempools and percpu_alloc() in the proposed fashion seems a
pretty poor fit. mempools are for high-frequency low-level allocations
which have key characteristics: there are typically a finite number of
elements in flight and we *know* that elements are being freed in a
timely manner.
This doesn't fit with percpu_alloc(), which is a very heavyweight
operation requiring GFP_KERNEL and it doesn't fit with
blkio_group_stats_cpu because blkio_group_stats_cpu does not have the
"freed in a timely manner" behaviour.
To resolve these things you've added the workqueue to keep the pool
populated, which turns percpu_mempool into a quite different concept
which happens to borrow some mempool code (not necessarily a bad thing).
This will result in some memory wastage, keeping that pool full.
More significantly, it's pretty unreliable: if the allocations outpace
the kernel thread's ability to refill the pool, all we can do is to
wait for the kernel thread to do some work. But we're holding
low-level locks while doing that wait, which will block the kernel
thread. Deadlock.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-12-23 1:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-22 21:45 [PATCHSET] block, mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool and fix blkcg percpu alloc deadlock Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/7] mempool: fix and document synchronization and memory barrier usage Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/7] mempool: drop unnecessary and incorrect BUG_ON() from mempool_destroy() Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 3/7] mempool: fix first round failure behavior Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 4/7] mempool: factor out mempool_fill() Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 5/7] mempool: separate out __mempool_create() Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 6/7] mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 7/7] block: fix deadlock through percpu allocation in blk-cgroup Tejun Heo
2011-12-23 1:00 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 22:54 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:59 ` [PATCHSET] block, mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool and fix blkcg percpu alloc deadlock Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 22:09 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 22:20 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 22:41 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 22:54 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 23:00 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 23:16 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 23:24 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 23:41 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 23:54 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-23 1:14 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2011-12-23 15:17 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-27 18:34 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-27 21:20 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 21:44 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-27 21:58 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 22:22 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-23 1:21 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 1:38 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-23 2:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 3:11 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-23 14:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-27 21:25 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 22:07 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-27 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 22:30 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-16 15:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 1:40 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 1:58 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-23 2:56 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-26 6:05 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-27 17:52 ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28 0:14 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-28 0:41 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 1:28 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-16 15:28 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-09 23:58 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-10 16:26 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-13 22:31 ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-15 15:43 ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 14:46 ` Vivek Goyal
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