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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	avi@redhat.com, nate@cpanel.net, cl@linux-foundation.org,
	oleg@redhat.com, axboe@kernel.dk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] block, mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool and fix blkcg percpu alloc deadlock
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 21:54:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111223025411.GD12738@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111222173820.3461be5d.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 05:38:20PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 20:21:12 -0500 Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 03:41:38PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > > 
> > > If the code *does* correctly handle ->stats_cpu == NULL then we have
> > > options.
> > > 
> > > a) Give userspace a new procfs/debugfs file to start stats gathering
> > >    on a particular cgroup/request_queue pair.  Allocate the stats
> > >    memory in that.
> > > 
> > > b) Or allocate stats_cpu on the first call to blkio_read_stat_cpu()
> > >    and return zeroes for this first call.
> > 
> > But the purpose of stats is that they are gathered even if somebody
> > has not read them even once?
> 
> That's not a useful way of using stats.  The normal usage would be to
> record the stats then start the workload then monitor how the stats
> have changed as work proceeds.

I have atleast one example "iostat" which does not follow this. Its
first report shows the total stats since the system boot and each 
subsequent report covers time since previous report. With stats being
available since the cgroup creation time, one can think of extending
iostat tool to display per IO cgroup stats too.

Also we have a knob "reset_stats" to reset all the stats to zero. So
one can first reset stats, starts workload and then monitor it (if one
does not like stats since the cgroup creation time).

> 
> > So if I create a cgroup and put some
> > task into it which does some IO, I think stat collection should start
> > immediately without user taking any action.
> 
> If you really want to know the stats since cgroup creation then trigger
> the stats initialisation from userspace when creating the blkio_cgroup.

These per cpu stats are per cgroup per device. So if a workload in a
cgroup is doing IO to 4 devices, we allocate 4 percpu stat areas for
stats. So at cgroup creation time we just don't know how many of these
to create and also it does not cover the case of device hotplug after
cgroup creation.

> 
> > Forcing the user to first
> > read a stat before the collection starts is kind of odd to me.
> 
> Well one could add a separate stats_enable knob.  Doing it
> automatically from read() would be for approximate-back-compatibility
> with existing behaviour.
> 
> Plus (again) this way we also avoid burdening non-stats-users with the
> overhead of stats.

Even if we do that we have the problem with hoplugged device. Assume a
cgroup created, stats enabled now a new devices shows up and some task
in the group does IO on that device. Now we need to create percpu data
area for that cgroup-device pair dynamically in IO path and we are back
to the same problem. 

Thanks
Vivek

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-23  2:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-22 21:45 [PATCHSET] block, mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool and fix blkcg percpu alloc deadlock Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 1/7] mempool: fix and document synchronization and memory barrier usage Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 2/7] mempool: drop unnecessary and incorrect BUG_ON() from mempool_destroy() Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 3/7] mempool: fix first round failure behavior Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 4/7] mempool: factor out mempool_fill() Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 5/7] mempool: separate out __mempool_create() Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 6/7] mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:45 ` [PATCH 7/7] block: fix deadlock through percpu allocation in blk-cgroup Tejun Heo
2011-12-23  1:00   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 22:54     ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 21:59 ` [PATCHSET] block, mempool, percpu: implement percpu mempool and fix blkcg percpu alloc deadlock Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 22:09   ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 22:20     ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 22:41       ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 22:54         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 23:00           ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 23:16             ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 23:24               ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-22 23:41                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-22 23:54                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-23  1:14                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-23 15:17                       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-27 18:34                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-27 21:20                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 21:44                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-27 21:58                             ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 22:22                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-23  1:21                   ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23  1:38                     ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-23  2:54                       ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2011-12-23  3:11                         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-23 14:58                           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-27 21:25                             ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 22:07                               ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-27 22:21                                 ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-27 22:30                                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-16 15:26                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23  1:40       ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23  1:58         ` Andrew Morton
2011-12-23  2:56           ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-26  6:05             ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-27 17:52               ` Tejun Heo
2011-12-28  0:14                 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2011-12-28  0:41                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05  1:28                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-16 15:28                       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-09 23:58                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-10 16:26                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-02-13 22:31                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-02-15 15:43                             ` Vivek Goyal
2011-12-23 14:46           ` Vivek Goyal

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