From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751903Ab2ABDdk (ORCPT ); Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:33:40 -0500 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([93.93.128.6]:39979 "EHLO cavan.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751441Ab2ABDdh (ORCPT ); Sun, 1 Jan 2012 22:33:37 -0500 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 03:33:20 +0000 From: Matthew Garrett To: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=FCsch?= Cc: Oliver Neukum , Linus Torvalds , Alan Stern , Dave Jones , Linux Kernel , Larry Finger , Chaoming Li , "John W. Linville" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , USB list , Linux Wireless List Subject: Re: loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled. Message-ID: <20120102033320.GA6184@srcf.ucam.org> References: <201201011322.34483.oliver@neukum.org> <201201012227.56568.oliver@neukum.org> <20120101223913.3ff57d0f@milhouse> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20120101223913.3ff57d0f@milhouse> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@cavan.codon.org.uk X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on cavan.codon.org.uk); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 10:39:13PM +0100, Michael Büsch wrote: > I don't get it. Why would a device enter a state after resume, that it was not > in at _any_ time before the machine was suspended? Load firmware. Do a warm reboot. The hardware may maintain the initialised state, but the new kernel will never have loaded it. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org