From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration]
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 07:32:33 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120105153233.GA11934@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1201051001360.1434-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Hello,
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 10:13:31AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> I don't have a clear idea of what's involved (in particular, how to go
> from a block_device structure to a mounted filesystem). But the place
> to do it would probably be block/genhd.c:invalidate_partition(). Ted
> can tell you if there's a better alternative.
>
> > Do you know how hard it is to detect at mount time if a block device
> > might be hot-plugable? We can always use a mount option here and
> > make userspace figure it out, but being to have a good default would
> > be nice.
>
> I don't think it's possible to tell if a device is hot-unpluggable.
> For example, the device itself might not be removable from its parent,
> but the parent might be hot-unpluggable. You'll probably have to
> assume that every device can potentially be unplugged, one way or
> another.
>
> Also, even devices that aren't hot-unpluggable can fail. The end
> result should be pretty much the same.
Ummm.... I could be missing something but filesystems need to be able
to deal with partial device failures (ie. some block can't be read)
and hot-unplug or handling full failure is a logical extension of
that. That's how it already works, so I don't really think that is a
particularly good application for the revoke mechanism.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-05 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-04 16:52 Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration Alan Stern
2012-01-04 17:18 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-04 18:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-04 19:41 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-05 3:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-05 15:13 ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration] Alan Stern
2012-01-05 15:32 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-01-05 16:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-05 16:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 16:47 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-05 17:11 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 18:27 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-05 18:36 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 19:28 ` Ted Ts'o
2012-01-05 20:52 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-06 6:25 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2012-01-07 21:01 ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing withunregistration] Milton Miller
2012-01-05 20:43 ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration] Eric W. Biederman
2012-01-05 20:55 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-05 18:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-01-05 15:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-14 15:11 ` watchdog code anish kumar
2012-01-05 18:18 ` Revoking filesystems [was Re: Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration] Greg KH
2012-01-04 18:13 ` Sysfs attributes racing with unregistration Alan Stern
2012-01-04 18:20 ` Tejun Heo
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