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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, ctalbott@google.com, rni@google.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/17] blkcg: shoot down blkio_groups on elevator switch
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 07:39:13 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120123153913.GB12652@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120123152055.GD25986@redhat.com>

Hello,

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 10:20:55AM -0500, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> What happens to per device rules (per device weight and per device
> throttling rules)? IIUC, in new scheme of things, upon elevator switch
> these rules will be gone.
> 
> I can understand per device weight rules disappearing but what about 
> throttling rules. They are independent of IO scheduler and change of
> io scheduler should not cause per device throttling rules to get lost.
> 
> This just gets worse if elevator switch fails and we fall back to old
> elevator. But now we have lost of the rules as rules were part of
> blkg.conf and old groups are gone.

As any other choices, it's about trade off and there multiple aspects
to consider.  Both elevator and policy changes are extremely low
frequency and inherently disruptive operations and having persistency
across them doesn't justify adding the amount of complexity and design
convolutions we have now, especially not when rule persistency across
those switches can be implemented with mostly trivial switching script
from userland.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-23 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-22  3:25 [PATCHSET] blkcg: kill policy node and blkg->dev, take#2 Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 01/17] blkcg: make CONFIG_BLK_CGROUP bool Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 15:00   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 15:34     ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 02/17] cfq: don't register propio policy if !CONFIG_CFQ_GROUP_IOSCHED Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 03/17] elevator: clear auxiliary data earlier during elevator switch Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 04/17] elevator: make elevator_init_fn() return 0/-errno Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 05/17] block: implement blk_queue_bypass_start/end() Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 06/17] block: extend queue bypassing to cover blkcg policies Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 07/17] blkcg: make blkio_list_lock irq-safe Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 08/17] blkcg: shoot down blkio_groups on elevator switch Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 15:20   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 15:36     ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 15:49       ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 15:39     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2012-01-23 15:52       ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 15:57         ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 16:10           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 16:13             ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 16:20               ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 16:28                 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 16:32                   ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 16:16             ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 16:25               ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 17:10                 ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 18:27                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 18:43                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 19:33                       ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 19:57                         ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 20:33                           ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 20:43                       ` Lennart Poettering
2012-01-23 20:47                         ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-23 21:03                           ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 20:40                     ` Lennart Poettering
2012-01-23 18:32                   ` Vivek Goyal
2012-01-23 18:51                     ` Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 09/17] blkcg: move rcu_read_lock() outside of blkio_group get functions Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 10/17] blkcg: update blkg get functions take blkio_cgroup as parameter Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 11/17] blkcg: use q and plid instead of opaque void * for blkio_group association Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 12/17] blkcg: add blkio_policy[] array and allow one policy per policy ID Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 13/17] blkcg: use the usual get blkg path for root blkio_group Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 14/17] blkcg: factor out blkio_group creation Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 15/17] blkcg: don't allow or retain configuration of missing devices Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 16/17] blkcg: kill blkio_policy_node Tejun Heo
2012-01-22  3:25 ` [PATCH 17/17] blkcg: kill the mind-bending blkg->dev Tejun Heo

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