From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
arjanvandeven@gmail.com,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: smp: Start up non-boot CPUs asynchronously
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:12:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120131161207.GA18357@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120131072216.1ce78e50@infradead.org>
* Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:31:31 +0100
> Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > by inspection, anything that calls
> > > get_online_cpus()/put_online_cpus() will block while a CPU
> > > is coming up. This is used in things like
> > > kmem_cache_create()... which is used about everywhere.
> > > (there's various other places... more or less it's a
> > > requirement for using the for_each_online_cpu() api
> > > correctly)
> >
> > Still magic delays are not acceptable - we want to face any
> > remaining performance problems head on, we want to
> > understand and fix them correctly.
>
> it's not really a performance problem as it is an obvious "we
> have a ton of back-to-back writers on a read-write lock that
> we have quite a few readers for". Unless the writers back off
> a little, the readers are going to get starved.
I didn't think I'd ever quote Bush, but my reaction to that is:
'Bring it on!' ;-)
Really, we don't want *more* random delays in kernel code.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-31 16:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-31 4:54 smp: Start up non-boot CPUs asynchronously Arjan van de Ven
2012-01-31 12:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-31 13:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-01-31 14:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-31 15:22 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-01-31 16:12 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-01-31 16:24 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-02-01 22:55 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <CADyApD0yVOePmaLznks_h6xR_BCUjzEFUB7VtsL9vvsoHwCOVw@mail.gmail.com>
2012-02-01 23:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-02-14 8:17 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-14 9:48 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-14 19:32 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
[not found] ` <CADyApD0o4UYsTkqf2H2yJZ-d05NAyRAEc6z+m1gJEogc=cZLqQ@mail.gmail.com>
2012-02-14 15:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-14 19:57 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-14 20:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-14 21:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-02-14 21:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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