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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	paul@paulmenage.org, rjw@sisk.pl, tj@kernel.org,
	frank.rowand@am.sony.com, pjt@google.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, prashanth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] CPU hotplug, cpusets: Fix CPU online handling related to cpusets
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:00:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120211160040.GA6616@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1328895244.25989.25.camel@laptop>

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 06:34:04PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 08:53 -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 04:52:07PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2012-02-09 at 16:11 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > My understanding of the code is that when a CPU is taken 
> > > > > offline, it is removed from all the cpusets and then the 
> > > > > scan_for_empty_cpusets() function is run to move tasks from 
> > > > > empty cpusets to their parent cpusets.
> > > > 
> > > > Why is that done that way? offlining a CPU should be an 
> > > > invariant as far as cpusets are concerned.
> > > 
> > > Can't, tasks need to run someplace. There's two choices, add a still
> > > online cpu to the now empty cpuset or move the tasks to a parent that
> > > still has online cpus.
> > > 
> > > Both are destructive.
> > 
> > OK, I will ask the stupid question...  Hey, somebody has to!  ;-)
> > 
> > Would it make sense for offlining the last CPU in a cpuset to be
> > destructive, but to allow offlining of a non-last CPU to be reversible?
> 
> No, that's very inconsistent and will lead to way more 'surprises'. 

It might well lead to surprises, but so does INT_MIN==-INT_MIN.  IOW,
the inconsistency certainly is a disadvantage, but it must be weighed
against the disadvantages of the current situation.

> > /me ducks.  ;-)
> 
> /me quacks ;-)
> 
> Now the whole problem here seems to be that suspend uses cpu-hotplug to
> reduce the machine to UP -- I've no clue why it does that but I can
> imagine its because the BIOS calls only work on CPU0 and/or the resume
> only wakes CPU0 so you have to bootstrap the SMP thing again..
> 
> Some suspend person wanna clarify? Rafael?
> 
> Anyway, the whole suspend case is magic anyway since all tasks will have
> been frozen, so we could simply leave all of cpuset alone and ignore the
> hotplug notifier on CPU_TASKS_FROZEN callbacks, hmm?
> 
> Do we unfreeze after we bring up the machine again?

Agreed, the suspend case is the highest priority in that losing your cpusets
after suspending and resuming is -very- surprising.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-11 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-07 18:55 [PATCH 0/4] CPU hotplug, cpusets: Fix CPU online handling related to cpusets Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-07 18:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] CPU hotplug, cpuset: Maintain a copy of the cpus_allowed mask before CPU hotplug Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-07 18:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] cpuset: Split up update_cpumask() so that its functionality can be reused Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-07 18:57 ` [PATCH 3/4] cpuset: Add function to introduce CPUs to cpusets during CPU online Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-07 18:57 ` [PATCH 4/4] CPU hotplug, cpusets: Differentiate the CPU online and CPU offline callbacks Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-08  3:22 ` [PATCH 0/4] CPU hotplug, cpusets: Fix CPU online handling related to cpusets Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-08  6:33   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-09  7:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-09  8:42       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-09 15:11         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-10 15:52           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 16:53             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-10 17:34               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-10 21:51                 ` Alan Stern
2012-02-10 22:39                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-11  2:07                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-11  4:26                       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-13 17:47                         ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-17 12:15                           ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-20 12:49                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 12:59                               ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-23  9:57                                 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-24 23:24                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2012-02-27 10:18                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-27 12:09                                   ` [tip:sched/urgent] CPU hotplug, cpusets, suspend: Don' t touch cpusets during suspend/resume tip-bot for Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-11 16:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-02-13 17:47               ` [PATCH 0/4] CPU hotplug, cpusets: Fix CPU online handling related to cpusets Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-13 20:39                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-13 20:49                   ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-02-11 13:39             ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-10 15:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-09 16:43     ` Peter Zijlstra

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