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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
	Linux Edac Mailing List <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/31] events/hw_event: Create a Hardware Events Report Mecanism (HERM)
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 13:48:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120212124825.GC32467@aftab> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F35270F.1020402@redhat.com>

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:17:51PM -0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em 10-02-2012 11:41, Borislav Petkov escreveu:
> > On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:01:00PM -0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> >> In order to provide a proper hardware event subsystem, let's
> >> encapsulate hardware events into a common trace facility, and
> >> make both edac and mce drivers to use it. After that, common
> >> facilities can be moved into a new core for hardware events
> >> reporting subsystem. This patch is the first of a series, and just
> >> touches at mce.
> > 
> > I think it would work too if you had only one event:
> > 
> > * trace_hw_error(...)
> > 
> > which would have as an argument a string describing it, like
> > "Uncorrected Memory Read Error", "Memory Read Error (out of range)" "TLB
> > Multimatch Error" etc., followed by the rest of the error info.
> > 
> > Currently, you're introducing at least 5 trace_* calls _only_ for memory
> > errors. What about the remaining couples of tens of errors which haven't
> > been addressed yet?
> 
> Good point.
> 
> The way I see it is that:
> 
> - a non-memory related, non-parsed MCE event would generate a "mce_record" trace
> 	(we need an additional patch to disable it when the error is parsed.
> 	 I'll address it after finishing the tests with a few other platforms);
> 
> As more MCE parsers are added at the core, the situations where such event will
> be generated will reduce, and will eventually disappear in long term.
> 
> - a non-x86 event (or a x86 event for a memory controller that is not addressed
> by MCE events) will use a "mc_error";
> 
> - a x86 event generated via MCE will use a "mc_error_mce".
> 
> There are two special events defined when there's a memory error _and_ a driver
> bug:
> 
> 	"mc_out_of_range_mce" and "mc_out_of_range".
> 
> While the name of them and one of the parameters are memory-controller specific,
> it should be easy to make it generic enough to be used by other types of errors.
> 
> The previous EDAC logic were to generate an out of range printk and return. With
> the changes I made, it is possible to let the EDAC to provide the information
> parsed, just discarding the bad parsed value. That's the approach I took, as the
> other information there may be useful. By taking such approach, the MCE information
> will be shown by the "mc_error_mce" trace. So, we can remove the "mc_out_of_range_mce"
> without loosing any information.
> 
> In any case, we can't merge the *_mce with the non-mce variant, as the mce.h header
> is arch specific and doesn't exist on PPC and tilera architectures.
> 
> So, the only event that we can actually remove is "mc_out_of_range_mce", if we let
> the core generate two events for badly parsed error events. What do you think?

As I said already, error messages from the drivers should be something
very seldom so they don't need a special trace event.

But most importantly, _ALL_ hw errors could use a single
trace_hw_error() macro which has a single string argument containing all
the required error info as a string since the error format is different
based on the error type. In any case, memory errors are not special! As
I said also before, we cannot have a trace-call for every error type
which adds additional information or which might generate an error while
producing that error info.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
Boris.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-12 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-10  0:00 [PATCH v3 00/31] Hardware Events Report Mecanism (HERM) Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/31] events/hw_event: Create a " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10 13:41   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-02-10 14:17     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-12 12:48       ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2012-02-12 17:21         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-12 18:44           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-02-12 19:38             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-13  9:21               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-02-13 10:23                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/31] events/hw_event: use __string() trace macros for events Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/31] hw_event: Consolidate uncorrected/corrected error msgs into one Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/31] drivers/edac: rename channel_info to csrow_channel_info Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/31] edac: Create a dimm struct and move the labels into it Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/31] edac: Add per dimm's sysfs nodes Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/31] edac: Prepare to push down to drivers the filling of the dimm_info Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/31] edac: Better describe the memory concepts The memory terms changed along the time, since when EDAC were originally written: new concepts were introduced, and some things have different meanings, depending on the memory architecture. Better define those terms, and better describe each supported memory type Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/31] i5400_edac: Convert it to report memory with the new location Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/31] i7300_edac: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 11/31] edac: move dimm properties to struct dimm_info Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 12/31] edac: Don't initialize csrow's first_page & friends when not needed Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 13/31] edac: move nr_pages to dimm struct Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 14/31] edac: Add per-dimm sysfs show nodes Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 15/31] edac: DIMM location cleanup Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 16/31] edac/ppc4xx_edac: Fix compilation Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 17/31] edac-mc: Allow reporting errors on a non-csrow oriented way Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 18/31] edac.h: Use kernel-doc-nano-HOWTO.txt notation for enums Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 19/31] edac: rework memory layer hierarchy description Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 20/31] edac: Export MC hierarchy counters for CE and UE Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 21/31] hw_event: Add x86 MCE events on it Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 22/31] amd64_edac: convert it to use the MCE log tracepoint where applicable Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 23/31] edac: Simplify logs for i7core and sb edac drivers Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 24/31] edac_mc: Some clenups at the log message Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 25/31] edac: Add a sysfs node to test the EDAC error report facility Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 26/31] edac_mc: Fix the enable label filter logic Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 27/31] edac: Initialize the dimm label with the known information Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 28/31] edac: don't OOPS if the csrow is not visible Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 29/31] edac: Fix sysfs csrow?/*ce*count counters Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 30/31] edac: Fix new error counts Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10  0:01 ` [PATCH v3 31/31] edac: Fix per layer error count counters Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-10 13:26 ` [PATCH v3 00/31] Hardware Events Report Mecanism (HERM) Borislav Petkov
2012-02-10 16:39   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-12 12:08     ` Borislav Petkov
2012-02-12 17:10       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-13 21:29         ` Luck, Tony
2012-02-10 16:48 ` [PATCH v3 32/31] edac: restore mce.h file Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-02-13  9:23 ` [PATCH v3 00/31] Hardware Events Report Mecanism (HERM) Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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