From: Mathieu Desnoyers <compudj@krystal.dyndns.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com,
tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, dhowells@redhat.com,
eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
patches@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] rcu: direct algorithmic SRCU implementation
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:51:44 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120215145144.GA6277@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120215143116.GA1696@Krystal>
* Mathieu Desnoyers (mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca) wrote:
> * Paul E. McKenney (paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> [...]
> > +/*
> > + * To be called from the update side after an index flip. Returns true
> > + * if the modulo sum of the counters is stably zero, false if there is
> > + * some possibility of non-zero.
> > + */
> > +static bool srcu_readers_active_idx_check(struct srcu_struct *sp, int idx)
> > {
> > int cpu;
> > - int sum;
> >
> > - sum = 0;
> > + /*
> > + * Note that srcu_readers_active_idx() can incorrectly return
> > + * zero even though there is a pre-existing reader throughout.
> > + * To see this, suppose that task A is in a very long SRCU
> > + * read-side critical section that started on CPU 0, and that
> > + * no other reader exists, so that the modulo sum of the counters
> > + * is equal to one. Then suppose that task B starts executing
> > + * srcu_readers_active_idx(), summing up to CPU 1, and then that
> > + * task C starts reading on CPU 0, so that its increment is not
> > + * summed, but finishes reading on CPU 2, so that its decrement
> > + * -is- summed. Then when task B completes its sum, it will
> > + * incorrectly get zero, despite the fact that task A has been
> > + * in its SRCU read-side critical section the whole time.
> > + *
> > + * We therefore do a validation step should srcu_readers_active_idx()
> > + * return zero.
> > + */
> > + if (srcu_readers_active_idx(sp, idx) != 0)
> > + return false;
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Since the caller recently flipped ->completed, we can see at
> > + * most one increment of each CPU's counter from this point
> > + * forward. The reason for this is that the reader CPU must have
> > + * fetched the index before srcu_readers_active_idx checked
> > + * that CPU's counter, but not yet incremented its counter.
> > + * Its eventual counter increment will follow the read in
> > + * srcu_readers_active_idx(), and that increment is immediately
> > + * followed by smp_mb() B. Because smp_mb() D is between
> > + * the ->completed flip and srcu_readers_active_idx()'s read,
> > + * that CPU's subsequent load of ->completed must see the new
> > + * value, and therefore increment the counter in the other rank.
> > + */
> > + smp_mb(); /* A */
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Now, we check the ->snap array that srcu_readers_active_idx()
> > + * filled in from the per-CPU counter values. Since both
> > + * __srcu_read_lock() and __srcu_read_unlock() increment the
> > + * upper bits of the per-CPU counter, an increment/decrement
> > + * pair will change the value of the counter. Since there is
> > + * only one possible increment, the only way to wrap the counter
> > + * is to have a huge number of counter decrements, which requires
> > + * a huge number of tasks and huge SRCU read-side critical-section
> > + * nesting levels, even on 32-bit systems.
> > + *
> > + * All of the ways of confusing the readings require that the scan
> > + * in srcu_readers_active_idx() see the read-side task's decrement,
> > + * but not its increment. However, between that decrement and
> > + * increment are smb_mb() B and C. Either or both of these pair
> > + * with smp_mb() A above to ensure that the scan below will see
> > + * the read-side tasks's increment, thus noting a difference in
> > + * the counter values between the two passes.
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I think the implementation is correct, but the explanation above might
> be improved. Let's consider the following a scenario, where a reader is
> migrated between increment of the counter and issuing the memory barrier
> in the read lock:
>
> A,B,C are readers
> D is synchronize_rcu (one flip'n'wait)
>
> CPU A CPU B CPU C CPU D
> c[1]++
> smp_mb(1)
> read c[0] -> 0
> c[0]++
> (implicit smp_mb (2))
> -> migrated ->
> (implicit smp_mb (3))
> smp_mb (4)
> smp_mb (5)
> c[1]--
> read c[1] -> -1
> read c[2] -> 1
> (false 0 sum)
> smp_mb (6)
> re-check each.
> c[1]--
>
> re-check: because we observed c[1] == -1, thanks to the implicit memory
> barriers within thread migration (2 and 3), we can assume that we _will_
> observe the updated value of c[0] after smp_mb (6).
>
> The current explanation states that memory barriers 4 and 5, along with
> 6, are responsible for ensuring that the increment will be observed by
> the re-check. However, I doubt they have anything to do with it: it's
> rather the implicit memory barriers in thread migration, along with
> program order guarantees on writes to the same address, that seems to be
> the reason why we can do this ordering assumption.
Please disregard the part about program order: CPU A writes to c[0], and
CPU B writes to c[1], which are two different memory locations. The rest
of my discussion stands though.
Simply reasoning about write to c[0], memory barriers 2-3, write to
c[1], along with c[1] read, memory barrier 6, and then c[0] read is
enough to explain the ordering guarantees you need, without invoking
program order.
Thanks,
Mathieu
>
> Does it make sense, or shall I get another coffee to wake myself up ?
> ;)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mathieu
>
> > + *
> > + * Therefore, if srcu_readers_active_idx() returned zero, and
> > + * none of the counters changed, we know that the zero was the
> > + * correct sum.
> > + *
> > + * Of course, it is possible that a task might be delayed
> > + * for a very long time in __srcu_read_lock() after fetching
> > + * the index but before incrementing its counter. This
> > + * possibility will be dealt with in __synchronize_srcu().
> > + */
> > for_each_possible_cpu(cpu)
> > - sum += per_cpu_ptr(sp->per_cpu_ref, cpu)->c[idx];
> > - return sum;
> > + if (sp->snap[cpu] !=
> > + ACCESS_ONCE(per_cpu_ptr(sp->per_cpu_ref, cpu)->c[idx]))
> > + return false; /* False zero reading! */
> > + return true;
> > }
>
>
> --
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
Operating System Efficiency R&D Consultant
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-15 14:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-13 2:09 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu] rcu: direct algorithmic SRCU implementation Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-15 12:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 6:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-16 10:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-02-16 10:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 11:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-02-15 14:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-02-15 14:51 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2012-02-16 6:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-16 11:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-02-16 11:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 12:18 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-02-16 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 14:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2012-02-16 14:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-16 15:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-20 7:15 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-20 17:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-21 1:11 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-21 1:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-21 8:44 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-21 17:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-22 9:29 ` [PATCH 1/3 RFC paul/rcu/srcu] srcu: Remove fast check path Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-22 9:29 ` [PATCH 2/3 RFC paul/rcu/srcu] srcu: only increase the upper bit for srcu_read_lock() Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-22 9:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-22 21:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-22 21:26 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-22 21:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-02-23 1:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-22 9:29 ` [PATCH 3/3 RFC paul/rcu/srcu] srcu: flip only once for every grace period Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-23 1:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-24 8:06 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-24 20:01 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-27 8:01 ` [PATCH 1/2 RFC] srcu: change the comments of the wait algorithm Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-27 8:01 ` [PATCH 2/2 RFC] srcu: implement Peter's checking algorithm Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-27 18:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-28 1:51 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-28 13:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-29 10:07 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-02-29 13:55 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-01 2:31 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-01 13:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-10 3:41 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 8:42 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6 paul/rcu/srcu] srcu: implement call_srcu() Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 9:57 ` [PATCH 1/6] remove unused srcu_barrier() Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 9:57 ` [PATCH 2/6] Don't touch the snap in srcu_readers_active() Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-08 19:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-06 9:57 ` [PATCH 3/6] use "int trycount" instead of "bool expedited" Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-08 19:25 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-06 9:57 ` [PATCH 4/6] remove flip_idx_and_wait() Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 10:41 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-07 3:54 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5 single-thread-version] implement per-domain single-thread state machine call_srcu() Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-08 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-08 14:17 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-08 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-08 20:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-10 3:16 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-12 18:03 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-14 7:47 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-04-10 20:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-06 9:57 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] implement per-cpu&per-domain " Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 10:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-08 19:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-06 10:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 15:17 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 15:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-08 19:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-10 10:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 17:52 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-06 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 15:12 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 15:34 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-08 19:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-10 3:32 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-10 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 17:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-12 17:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 18:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-12 20:25 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 23:15 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-12 23:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-12 23:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-06 15:26 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 15:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 11:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 11:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 11:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 11:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 11:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 14:50 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 11:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 14:44 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 15:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-06 15:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-07 6:44 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-07 8:10 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-07 9:21 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 14:47 ` Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-06 9:57 ` [PATCH 6/6] add srcu torture test Lai Jiangshan
2012-03-08 19:03 ` [PATCH 1/6] remove unused srcu_barrier() Paul E. McKenney
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