From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
Cc: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Ubuntu security discussion <ubuntu-hardened@lists.ubuntu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Windsor <dwindsor@gmail.com>,
pageexec@freemail.hu, spender@grsecurity.net
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: Add overflow protection to kref
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 09:53:22 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120217175322.GB29902@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120217075945.GA2831@albatros>
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:59:45AM +0400, Vasiliy Kulikov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > And in all that time, I've never seen an instance where you can overflow
> > the reference count,
>
> Do you mean that the overflow is theoretically impossible or that this
> type of programmer error is rare?
>
> If the former, it is only 2**32 incs - if you can find open() implementation
> with a missing atomic_dec() in error path and you can call open() faster than
> 10000 times per second, you can overflow the counter in ~4 days.
>
> If the latter, it is just a question of finding missing put() in some triggerable
> error path. Kees has already posted a link to a bug with a missing fput().
>
>
> BTW, moving from atomic_t to 64 bit refcounter would kill the possibility of
> overflow. Unfortunately, AFAIU, 64 bit operations are not atomic on some 64 bit
> archs.
Can we switch it on those arches where it is an atomic operation? That
would be a nice simple solution.
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-17 17:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2012-02-16 20:45 ` Add overflow protection to kref Kees Cook
2012-02-17 0:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-02-17 1:06 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-17 1:40 ` Greg KH
2012-02-17 2:11 ` [ubuntu-hardened] " Kees Cook
2012-02-17 2:48 ` David Windsor
2012-02-17 3:32 ` Greg KH
2012-02-17 6:33 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-02-17 13:23 ` pageexec
2012-02-17 7:59 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-17 17:53 ` Greg KH [this message]
2012-02-17 17:54 ` Greg KH
2012-02-17 19:37 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-17 23:39 ` Djalal Harouni
2012-02-18 1:44 ` Roland Dreier
2012-02-18 16:15 ` David Windsor
2012-02-18 16:35 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-18 16:18 ` Greg KH
2012-02-24 17:58 ` David Windsor
2012-02-24 18:37 ` Greg KH
2012-02-24 18:52 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-24 19:05 ` Nick Bowler
2012-02-24 19:13 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-24 19:35 ` Nick Bowler
2012-02-24 21:59 ` PaX Team
2012-02-24 18:58 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-24 19:41 ` Greg KH
2012-02-24 20:04 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-24 19:04 ` David Windsor
2012-02-24 22:14 ` PaX Team
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