From: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>
To: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Ubuntu security discussion <ubuntu-hardened@lists.ubuntu.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, David Windsor <dwindsor@gmail.com>,
pageexec@freemail.hu, spender@grsecurity.net
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: Add overflow protection to kref
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 23:37:19 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120217193719.GA4187@albatros> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120217175445.GC29902@kroah.com>
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 09:54 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> I'm referring to the fact that the use of kref in this type of error or
> problem is rare.
>
> Yes, we have these types of problems at times, but a kref doesn't seem
> to be involved in them that I know of, so changing the kref code
> wouldn't help here from what I can tell.
Ehr, what's the difference between kref and "raw" atomic_t in a refcounting case?
There is _no_ difference in sense of overflows as a kref uses the same atomic_t.
I second David that we should use kref for overflow protection: we want to
hook an overflow case somehow in cases atomic_t is used as a refcounter. It is
_ideally_ handled by introducing atomic_t's subtype. And this subtype already
exists - it is called kref.
I expect all atomic_t refcounters users have
if (atomic_dec_and_test()) smth_put()
pattern, otherwise it is not a true refcounter :) It should be straightforward to
move to kref.
Moving to atomic64_t is attractive, but:
1) we still should find all atomic_t refcounters. Why not move to kref then?
2) what to do with architectures-loosers?
Thanks,
--
Vasiliy Kulikov
http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-02-17 19:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2012-02-16 20:45 ` Add overflow protection to kref Kees Cook
2012-02-17 0:24 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2012-02-17 1:06 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-17 1:40 ` Greg KH
2012-02-17 2:11 ` [ubuntu-hardened] " Kees Cook
2012-02-17 2:48 ` David Windsor
2012-02-17 3:32 ` Greg KH
2012-02-17 6:33 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2012-02-17 13:23 ` pageexec
2012-02-17 7:59 ` [kernel-hardening] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-17 17:53 ` Greg KH
2012-02-17 17:54 ` Greg KH
2012-02-17 19:37 ` Vasiliy Kulikov [this message]
2012-02-17 23:39 ` Djalal Harouni
2012-02-18 1:44 ` Roland Dreier
2012-02-18 16:15 ` David Windsor
2012-02-18 16:35 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-18 16:18 ` Greg KH
2012-02-24 17:58 ` David Windsor
2012-02-24 18:37 ` Greg KH
2012-02-24 18:52 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-24 19:05 ` Nick Bowler
2012-02-24 19:13 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-24 19:35 ` Nick Bowler
2012-02-24 21:59 ` PaX Team
2012-02-24 18:58 ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2012-02-24 19:41 ` Greg KH
2012-02-24 20:04 ` Kees Cook
2012-02-24 19:04 ` David Windsor
2012-02-24 22:14 ` PaX Team
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