From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1759797Ab2CGTUm (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:20:42 -0500 Received: from 8.mo2.mail-out.ovh.net ([188.165.52.147]:43441 "EHLO mo2.mail-out.ovh.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1759676Ab2CGTUk (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Mar 2012 14:20:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 20:08:20 +0100 From: Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD To: Nicolas Pitre Cc: Stephen Warren , Michal Marek , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Michal Simek , Guan Xuetao , Mike Frysinger , linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, microblaze-uclinux@itee.uq.edu.au, linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mundt , uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Russell King , Haavard Skinnemoen , "David S. Miller" , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, Hans-Christian Egtvedt X-Ovh-Mailout: 178.32.228.2 (mo2.mail-out.ovh.net) Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] Kbuild: Implement CONFIG_UIMAGE_KERNEL_NOLOAD Message-ID: <20120307190820.GD27213@game.jcrosoft.org> References: <1331080238-1524-1-git-send-email-swarren@wwwdotorg.org> <1331080238-1524-2-git-send-email-swarren@wwwdotorg.org> <20120307180815.GA27213@game.jcrosoft.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://uboot.jcrosoft.org/plagnioj.asc X-PGP-key-fingerprint: 6309 2BBA 16C8 3A07 1772 CC24 DEFC FFA3 279C CE7C User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 13015965873080937400 X-Ovh-Remote: 213.251.161.87 (ns32433.ovh.net) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-OVH-SPAMSTATE: OK X-OVH-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-OVH-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeegvddrvdejucetggdotefuucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecuhfhrohhmpeflvggrnhdqvehhrhhishhtohhphhgvucfrnfetiffpkffqnfdqggfknffnteftffcuoehplhgrghhnihhojhesjhgtrhhoshhofhhtrdgtohhmqeenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujggfsehttdfttddtredv X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N X-VR-SPAMSTATE: OK X-VR-SPAMSCORE: -100 X-VR-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrfeegvddrvdejucetggdotefuucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuqfggjfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecuhfhrohhmpeflvggrnhdqvehhrhhishhtohhphhgvucfrnfetiffpkffqnfdqggfknffnteftffcuoehplhgrghhnihhojhesjhgtrhhoshhofhhtrdgtohhmqeenucfjughrpeffhffvuffkfhggtggujggfsehttdfttddtredv Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 13:50 Wed 07 Mar , Nicolas Pitre wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote: > > > On 17:30 Tue 06 Mar , Stephen Warren wrote: > > > This allows the user to use U-Boot's mkimage's -T kernel_noload option > > > if their arch Kconfig allows it, and they desire. > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Stephen Warren > > > --- > > > The next patch enables this new CONFIG_ALLOW_ option for ARM. I assume > > > that some other architectures will also be able to enable it, but I'm > > > not familiar enough with any to know which. > > I'm going to repeat. I don't think any impromevent here. > > You know what? I agree with you... on a conceptual level only though. > > In reality, some people are are just too used to it, either for > emotional reasons or simply because that's what was there before so they > simply perpetuated it without thinking further, or whatever. REmoving > that support would just upset a lot of people. And frankly we have > better things to do than starting a flamewar over this. My concern is this new feature is available on new version of U-Boot only and people that does not have it and built the uImage are going to ask the question. Why bla bla bla.... Where people are supposed to RTFM I do do not want to have the answer this and manage this. > > So the next best thing is to make this u-Boot stuff well contained in a > common place and make sure it doesn't spread incoherently over multiple > architecture's directories and makefiles. This way the u-Boot cruft > won't be the ARM maintainer, or the PPC maintainer, or the SPARC > maintainer, or any other architecture maintainer's business, but the > responsibility of those who do care about it without affecting anyone > else. Ditto here People does not read the doc they as lazy and I do not want to manage this. > > > And the uImage format here is called the legacy format where now U-Boot > > support a new format based on DT format. > > > > Will you plan to add it too? > > Why not if someone cares? At least this will be done only > once, centrally, without having to involve architecture maintainers. So you manage this because I will not answer one e-mail that ask for help Because for my point of view RTFM or boot the zImage Best Regards, J.