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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	hpa@zytor.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	andi.kleen@intel.com, gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC patch] spindep: add cross cache lines checking
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 08:13:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120308071314.GA20784@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1331173262.18835.347.camel@debian>


* Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 14:39 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Alex Shi <alex.shi@intel.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > I think the check should be (__alignof__(lock) < 
> > > > __alignof__(rwlock_t)), otherwise it will still pass when 
> > > > you have structure with attribute((packed,aligned(2)))
> > > 
> > > reasonable!
> > > 
> > > >> 1, it is alignof bug for default gcc on my fc15 and Ubuntu 11.10 etc?
> > > >>
> > > >> struct sub {
> > > >>         int  raw_lock;
> > > >>         char a;
> > > >> };
> > > >> struct foo {
> > > >>         struct sub z;
> > > >>         int slk;
> > > >>         char y;
> > > >> }__attribute__((packed));
> > > >>
> > > >> struct foo f1;
> > > >>
> > > >> __alignof__(f1.z.raw_lock) is 4, but its address actually can align on
> > > >> one byte. 
> > > > 
> > > > That looks like correct behavior, because the alignment of 
> > > > raw_lock inside of struct sub is still 4. But it does mean 
> > > > that there can be cases where the compile-time check is not 
> > > > sufficient, so we might want the run-time check as well, at 
> > > > least under some config option.
> > > 
> > > what's your opinion of this, Ingo?
> > 
> > Dunno. How many real bugs have you found via this patch?
> 
> None. Guess stupid code was shot in lkml reviewing. But if the 
> patch in, it is helpful to block stupid code in developing.

The question is, if in the last 10 years not a single such case 
made it through to today's 15 million lines of kernel code, why 
should we add the check now?

If it was a simple build time check then maybe, but judging by 
the discussion it does not seem so simple, does it?

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-08  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-05  3:20 [RFC patch] spin_lock: add cross cache lines checking Alex Shi
2012-03-05  3:24 ` Alex Shi
2012-03-05  5:43   ` [RFC patch] spindep: " Alex Shi
2012-03-05  5:48     ` Alex Shi
2012-03-05  9:41     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-05 10:43       ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-06  6:13         ` Alex Shi
2012-03-06  6:18           ` Alex Shi
2012-03-06  9:32           ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-07  8:23             ` Alex Shi
2012-03-07 11:54               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-03-07 13:13                 ` Alex Shi
2012-03-07 13:39                   ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-08  2:21                     ` Alex Shi
2012-03-08  7:13                       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-03-09  1:20                         ` Alex Shi
2012-03-08  2:30                 ` Alex Shi

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