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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Peter Seebach <peter.seebach@windriver.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
	paulus@samba.org, dsahern@gmail.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com, emunson@mgebm.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] perf: Incorrect use of snprintf results in SEGV
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 08:34:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120308073454.GD20784@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1331153964.11248.362.camel@twins>


* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-03-07 at 21:37 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> >         size_needed = snprintf_size(...);
> 
> This would require 3 passes over the fmt+args, first to find 
> the allocated size is insufficient, 2nd to compute the size, 
> 3rd to fill buffer.

No. The 1% case would use this separate API with its quirky 
return value. snprintf_size() works like today's snprintf, it's 
just *named* clearly to signal that it returns something not 
quite intuitive and results in bugs even in code that *tries* to 
be aware of the corner cases.

> Whereas with the current "creative" API only 2 passes are 
> needed.
> 
> I can imagine that back in the day of small memory and small 
> CPU this was deemed important enough.
> 
> Anyway, its all moot, this API exists and has been out in the 
> wild for several decades now, its not like we can actually 
> change it :-)

Of course it is moot - I am not arguing for a change in the API.

But the self-justification, as outlined in the mail I replied 
to, is brutally wrong, and nowhere in this discussion did I see 
the important notion mentioned that the *common case matters* - 
so maybe reading this will keep others from committing the same 
mistake, with newly introduced APIs.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-08  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-07  0:42 [PATCH] perf: Incorrect use of snprintf results in SEGV Anton Blanchard
2012-03-07  0:49 ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-07  1:09 ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-03-07  1:29   ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-07 18:44     ` Nick Bowler
2012-03-07 20:24       ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-07 20:37     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-07 20:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-07 21:28         ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-08  7:34         ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-03-08  8:51           ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-07 21:19       ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-08  0:58         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-03-08  7:48         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-08  7:52           ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-09 19:00           ` Peter Seebach
2012-03-14 19:59 ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf tools: " tip-bot for Anton Blanchard

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