From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757942Ab2CSOUT (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:20:19 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:44734 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755813Ab2CSOUR (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 Mar 2012 10:20:17 -0400 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:19:00 +0100 From: Andrea Arcangeli To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Avi Kivity , Linus Torvalds , Andrew Morton , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Paul Turner , Suresh Siddha , Mike Galbraith , "Paul E. McKenney" , Lai Jiangshan , Dan Smith , Bharata B Rao , Lee Schermerhorn , Rik van Riel , Johannes Weiner , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/26] sched/numa Message-ID: <20120319141900.GO24602@redhat.com> References: <20120316144028.036474157@chello.nl> <4F670325.7080700@redhat.com> <1332155527.18960.292.camel@twins> <20120319130401.GI24602@redhat.com> <1332163776.18960.337.camel@twins> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1332163776.18960.337.camel@twins> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 02:29:36PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Mon, 2012-03-19 at 14:04 +0100, Andrea Arcangeli wrote: > > For the niche there's the > > numactl, cpusets, and all sort of bindings already. No need of more > > niche, that is pure kernel API pollution in my view, the niche has all > > its hard tools it needs already. > > Not quite, I've heard that some HPC people would very much like to relax > some of that hard binding because its just as big a pain for them as it > is for kvm. Then I guess if they call hard bindings a big pain, they won't be excited by the pain you offer them through your new soft binding syscalls. It's totally ok for qemu, which will just run 2 syscalls per vnode. But with your solution some apps will suffer from the same massive pain that they're currently suffering. This is why is still niche to me.