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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	acme@redhat.com, mingo@elte.hu, paulus@samba.org,
	cjashfor@linux.vnet.ibm.com, fweisbec@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] perf, tool: Add new event group management
Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:15:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120321121510.GA4386@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1332330852.18960.482.camel@twins>


* Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 10:52 +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > > # echo {}
> > > {}
> > > # echo {en,dis}able
> > > enable disable
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It somehow special cases {}, which is horrible.
> > 
> > Oh, indeed: brace expansion and sequence expressions both use 
> > curly braces:
> > 
> >  $ echo foo-{a,b,c}-bar
> >  foo-a-bar foo-b-bar foo-c-bar
> > 
> >  $ echo {1..10}
> >  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10
> > 
> > Too bad, it would be rather intuitive. All the brace characters 
> > are taken by Bash.
> > 
> > Maybe something like:
> > 
> >  $ echo /minor-faults,major-faults/
> >  /minor-faults,major-faults/
> > 
> > although it looks a bit weird.
> > 
> > So ... how about using another grouping operator, such as '+'?
> > 
> > Something like:
> > 
> >  -e minor-faults+major-faults
> > 
> > While when comma separated they are not grouped, or so.
> 
> I would much prefer a syntax that's more natural but requires 
> quoting than one that's quirky and tailor made to avoid 
> whatever current bash does. For one, there's other shells out 
> there that might have different quoting needs and bash is of 
> course free to extend its syntax.

Well, they are unlikely to extend to '+', it would break a 
boatload of scripts I suspect.

So the question would be, is a+b+c as event grouping a natural 
syntax? If not then lets use a quoted one that is.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-21 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-20 18:15 [RFC 0/3] perf tool: Add new event group management Jiri Olsa
2012-03-20 18:15 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf, tool: Fix various casting issues for 32 bits Jiri Olsa
2012-03-23  8:29   ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf tools: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2012-03-20 18:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf, tool: Fix modifier to be applied on correct events Jiri Olsa
2012-03-23  8:30   ` [tip:perf/urgent] perf tools: " tip-bot for Jiri Olsa
2012-03-20 18:15 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf, tool: Add new event group management Jiri Olsa
2012-03-20 18:44   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-20 20:46     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-20 22:18       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-03-21  9:15       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-21  9:52         ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-21 11:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-21 12:15             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-03-21 15:13               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-03-22  7:56                 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-22 12:41                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-03-22 13:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-03-22 14:07                       ` Jiri Olsa
2012-03-20 22:36     ` Jiri Olsa
2012-03-21 11:54       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-21 10:42     ` Jiri Olsa
2012-03-21 15:11       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-03-21 22:27         ` Jiri Olsa
2012-03-22 12:40           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-04-10 13:19     ` Jiri Olsa
2012-03-20 20:08   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-03-20 22:16     ` Jiri Olsa
2012-03-21  2:12   ` Namhyung Kim

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