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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@au1.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] KVM updates for the 3.4 merge window
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 18:21:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120326162101.GA524@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F703F5E.8030700@redhat.com>


* Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com> wrote:

> Say a fix comes in which needs to be mainlined during -rc.  So 
> I put it in some other branch, to be sent off to Linus in a 
> few days after maturing a little.  Meanwhile developers see an 
> incomplete tree, since that patch is not in it.
> 
> Once Linus pulls, I can merge it back (or even before, if I'm 
> reasonably certain it's not going to change), but it leaves a 
> history of unneeded merges.  Or we can do throwaway merges 
> like tip.git.

We don't do throwaway merges in the -tip development branches 
themselves, i.e. in tip:sched/core, tip:perf/core, 
tip:timers/core, etc.

When a fix goes into tip:sched/urgent then until Linus merges it 
it's not in tip:sched/core. 99% of the fixes don't *have to* go 
into sched/core straight away.

In the odd case where there's some dependency, we can manually 
merge it into tip:sched/core ahead of Linus pulling into an -rc. 
Those rare merges are not a problem, and I explain the reason in 
the merge commit itself.

If you look at:

 gll v3.2..v3.3 | grep -E '/urgent.*/core'

you'll see that I only had to do it once in the previous cycle:

 d6c1c49de577 Merge branch 'perf/urgent' into perf/core

and the changelog explains the background:

Merge reason: Add these cherry-picked commits so that future changes
              on perf/core don't conflict.

it was a rare, oddball situation where we cherry-picked 
perf/core changes into perf/urgent. Extra merges are perfectly 
fine in that case.

The 'throwaway' tip:master branch you are probably referring to 
is basically just a testing branch, a convenient merged tree of 
the one dozen maintainer trees that are hosted in -tip. Since we 
don't want to force Linus's hand of him being able to reject 
individual trees we don't merge them properly - hence the 
integrated tree is a throwaway tree in theory.

In practice I tend to throw it away only once per cycle, around 
-rc1, once all pending trees went to Linus. tip:master is not 
used for any Git based contribution work - it's for testing, 
it's for people who want to work with patches - the commits 
themselves always go into persistent non-rebasing, append-only 
Git trees.

If we mess up bisectability we do a delta fix. When choosing 
between somewhat better bisectability and a proper history that 
others can rely on then proper history wins hands down.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-26 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-20 14:08 [GIT PULL] KVM updates for the 3.4 merge window Avi Kivity
2012-03-23  0:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-03-23  3:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-25 10:09     ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-25 20:51       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-03-26 10:05         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 16:21           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-03-27  7:31             ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-26 21:05           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-03-26 21:38       ` Paul Mackerras
2012-03-27 10:09         ` Avi Kivity
2012-03-28  4:02           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-03-28 19:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-03-30 12:01           ` Paul Mackerras
2012-04-01 12:38             ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 21:02               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-02  9:06                 ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-02  9:46                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-16 12:47                     ` Alexander Graf
2012-04-16 12:53                       ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-16 13:05                         ` Alexander Graf
2012-04-16 23:05                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-04-17  7:20                           ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-17  9:34                             ` Alexander Graf
2012-04-17 10:25                               ` Avi Kivity
2012-04-01 22:45               ` Paul Mackerras
2012-04-02  9:07                 ` Avi Kivity

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