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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linaro-sched-sig@lists.linaro.org,
	Alessio Igor Bogani <abogani@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Geoff Levand <geoff@infradead.org>,
	Gilad Ben Yossef <gilad@benyossef.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <thebigcorporation@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Zen Lin <zen@openhuawei.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/32] cpuset: Set up interface for nohz flag
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:19:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120327111943.GB13196@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1203210949440.20482@router.home>

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 09:50:27AM -0500, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> 
> > Prepare the interface to implement the nohz cpuset flag.
> > This flag, once set, will tell the system to try to
> > shutdown the periodic timer tick when possible.
> >
> > We use here a per cpu refcounter. As long as a CPU
> > is contained into at least one cpuset that has the
> > nohz flag set, it is part of the set of CPUs that
> > run into adaptive nohz mode.
> 
> What are the drawbacks for nohz?
> 
> If there are none: Can we make nohz default behavior without relying on
> cpusets?

I can't tell for now. I haven't yet covered everything the timer is
handling. Until that happens I can't do measurements.

In theory this sounds like a win in every case. I just would like
to test that in practice. This sets up hooks in kernel entry/exit.
More IPIs here and there. May be this adds overhead on workloads
involving a lot of syscalls or exceptions. I don't know.

Given this is not yet entirely clear, I think it may be better to keep
this interface around until the patchset reaches a version that becomes
mergeable. Then at this point we can get serious testing coverage to take
the decision to drop the interface and make it unconditional on
CONFIG_ADAPTIVE_NO_HZ.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-03-27 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-03-21 13:58 [RFC][PATCH 00/32] Nohz cpusets v2 (adaptive tickless kernel) Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-04 15:33   ` warning in tick_nohz_irq_exit Stephen Hemminger
2012-04-04 20:45     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 01/32] nohz: Separate idle sleeping time accounting from nohz logic Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 02/32] nohz: Make nohz API agnostic against idle ticks cputime accounting Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 03/32] nohz: Rename ts->idle_tick to ts->last_tick Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 04/32] nohz: Move nohz load balancer selection into idle logic Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 05/32] nohz: Move ts->idle_calls incrementation into strict " Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 06/32] nohz: Move next idle expiry time record into idle logic area Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 07/32] cpuset: Set up interface for nohz flag Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 14:50   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-22  4:03     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-22 16:26       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-22 19:20         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-27 11:22       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-27 11:53         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-27 11:56           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-27 12:31             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-03-27 11:19     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 08/32] nohz: Try not to give the timekeeping duty to an adaptive tickless cpu Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 14:52   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-27 10:50     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-27 16:08       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-27 16:47         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28  1:12           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-28  8:39             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-28 13:11               ` Dimitri Sivanich
2012-03-28 15:51               ` Chris Metcalf
2012-03-30  1:34         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 09/32] x86: New cpuset nohz irq vector Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 10/32] nohz: Adaptive tick stop and restart on nohz cpuset Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 11/32] nohz/cpuset: Don't turn off the tick if rcu needs it Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 14:54   ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-22  7:38     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-22 16:18       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-27 15:21         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-28 12:39           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-28 12:57             ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-28 13:38               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-22 17:18       ` Chris Metcalf
2012-03-27 15:31         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-27 15:43           ` Chris Metcalf
2012-03-28  8:36             ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-27 12:13     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-27 16:13       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-27 16:24         ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-28  0:42           ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-28  1:06             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-28  1:19               ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-28  1:35                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-28  3:17                   ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-28  7:55                     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-28 12:21                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-28 12:41                         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-28 14:02                       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-28 11:53         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 12/32] nohz/cpuset: Wake up adaptive nohz CPU when a timer gets enqueued Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 13/32] nohz/cpuset: Don't stop the tick if posix cpu timers are running Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 14/32] nohz/cpuset: Restart tick when nohz flag is cleared on cpuset Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 15/32] nohz/cpuset: Restart the tick if printk needs it Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 16/32] rcu: Restart the tick on non-responding adaptive nohz CPUs Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 17/32] rcu: Restart tick if we enqueue a callback in a nohz/cpuset CPU Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 18/32] nohz: Generalize tickless cpu time accounting Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 19/32] nohz/cpuset: Account user and system times in adaptive nohz mode Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 20/32] nohz/cpuset: New API to flush cputimes on nohz cpusets Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 21/32] nohz/cpuset: Flush cputime on threads in nohz cpusets when waiting leader Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-27 14:10   ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-27 14:23     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-28 11:20       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 22/32] nohz/cpuset: Flush cputimes on procfs stat file read Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 23/32] nohz/cpuset: Flush cputimes for getrusage() and times() syscalls Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 24/32] x86: Syscall hooks for nohz cpusets Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 25/32] x86: Exception " Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 26/32] x86: Add adaptive tickless hooks on do_notify_resume() Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 27/32] nohz: Don't restart the tick before scheduling to idle Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 28/32] rcu: New rcu_user_enter() and rcu_user_exit() APIs Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 29/32] rcu: New rcu_user_enter_irq() and rcu_user_exit_irq() APIs Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 30/32] rcu: Switch to extended quiescent state in userspace from nohz cpuset Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 31/32] nohz: Exit RCU idle mode when we schedule before resuming userspace Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-21 13:58 ` [PATCH 32/32] nohz/cpuset: Disable under some configs Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-27 15:02 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/32] Nohz cpusets v2 (adaptive tickless kernel) Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-27 15:04   ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-27 15:05     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-27 16:22       ` Christoph Lameter
2012-03-28  6:47         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-03-27 15:10   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27 15:18     ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2012-05-22 21:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-05-22 21:50       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-22 22:22         ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-03-28 11:43   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-30  0:33 ` Kevin Hilman
2012-03-30  0:45   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-30  2:07     ` Geoff Levand
2012-03-30 14:10       ` Kevin Hilman

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