From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"rusty@rustcorp.com.au" <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Paul Gortmaker <paul.gortmaker@windriver.com>,
Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>, "mingo@elte.hu" <mingo@elte.hu>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com>,
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Subject: Re: CPU Hotplug rework
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 10:55:49 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120405175549.GA9127@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120405173918.GC8194@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:39:18AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 08:18:42PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> > On 03/19/2012 08:14 PM, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > There had been some discussion on CPU Hotplug redesign/rework
> > > some time ago, but it was buried under a thread with a different
> > > subject.
> > > (http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1246208/focus=1246404)
> > >
> > > So I am opening a new thread with an appropriate subject to discuss
> > > what needs to be done and how to go about it, as part of the rework.
> > >
> > > Peter Zijlstra and Paul McKenney had come up with TODO lists for the
> > > rework, and here are their extracts from the previous discussion:
>
> Finally getting around to looking at this in more detail...
>
> > Additional things that I would like to add to the list:
> >
> > 1. Fix issues with CPU Hotplug callback registration. Currently there
> > is no totally-race-free way to register callbacks and do setup
> > for already online cpus.
> >
> > I had posted an incomplete patchset some time ago regarding this,
> > which gives an idea of the direction I had in mind.
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1258880/focus=15826
>
> Another approach is to have the registration function return the
> CPU mask corresponding to the instant at which registration occurred,
> perhaps via an additional function argument that points to a
> cpumask_var_t that can be NULL if you don't care. Then you can
> do setup for the CPUs indicated in the mask.
>
> Or am I missing the race you had in mind? Or is the point to make
> sure that the notifiers execute in order?
>
> > 2. There is a mismatch between the code and the documentation around
> > the difference between [un/register]_hotcpu_notifier and
> > [un/register]_cpu_notifier. And I remember seeing several places in
> > the code that uses them inconsistently. Not terribly important, but
> > good to fix it up while we are at it.
>
> The following lead me to believe that they were the same:
>
> #define register_hotcpu_notifier(nb) register_cpu_notifier(nb)
> #define unregister_hotcpu_notifier(nb) unregister_cpu_notifier(nb)
>
> What am I missing here?
>
> > 3. There was another thread where stuff related to CPU hotplug had been
> > discussed. It had exposed some new challenges to CPU hotplug, if we
> > were to support asynchronous smp booting.
> >
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1246209/focus=48535
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1246209/focus=48542
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1246209/focus=1253241
> > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1246209/focus=1253267
>
> Good points! ;-)
>
> > 4. Because the current CPU offline code depends on stop_machine(), every
> > online CPU must cooperate with the offline event. This means, whenever
> > we do a preempt_disable(), it ensures not only that that particular
> > CPU won't go offline, but also that *any* CPU cannot go offline. This
> > is more like a side-effect of using stop_machine().
> >
> > So when trying to move over to stop_one_cpu(), we have to carefully audit
> > places where preempt_disable() has been used in that manner (ie.,
> > preempt_disable used as a light-weight and non-blocking form of
> > get_online_cpus()). Because when we move to stop_one_cpu() to do CPU offline,
> > a preempt disabled section will prevent only that particular CPU from
> > going offline.
> >
> > I haven't audited preempt_disable() calls yet, but one such use was there
> > in brlocks (include/linux/lglock.h) until quite recently.
>
> I was thinking in terms of the offline code path doing a synchronize_sched()
> to allow preempt_disable() to retain a reasonable approximation of its
> current semantics. This would require a pair of CPU masks, one for code
> using CPU-based primitives (e.g., sending IPIs) and another for code
> implementing those primitives.
>
> Or is there some situation that makes this approach fail?
Hmmm... I suppose that -rt's use of migrate_disable() needs some other
approach in any case, unless -rt's offlining waits for all pre-existing
migrate_disable() sections to finish.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-05 21:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-19 14:44 CPU Hotplug rework Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-19 14:48 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-03-20 11:28 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-05 17:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-05 17:55 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-04-05 23:06 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-06 20:15 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-09 16:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-10 7:56 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-04-06 19:52 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-09 17:13 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-10 13:41 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-10 15:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-10 17:26 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-11 0:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-11 0:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-11 0:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-11 1:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-11 6:02 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-11 12:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-19 23:42 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-20 10:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-20 23:00 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-21 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-22 4:25 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-22 22:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-23 23:27 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-24 0:23 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-03-26 0:41 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-26 8:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 13:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-26 13:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 15:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-26 16:13 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-26 17:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-03-26 17:59 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-03-27 1:32 ` Rusty Russell
2012-03-27 3:05 ` Steven Rostedt
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