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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: RFC: deprecating/removing the legacy mode of devpts
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On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 02:43:55PM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:

> As mentioned earlier, udev is not involved at all here. It's all in the
> kernel these days; all device nodes are created by the kernel and not by
> udev.

... on the systems that have devtmpfs enabled.  And no, "runs castrated
udev" is not "all systems out there that might want a new kernel".