From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756204Ab2DQPSA (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:18:00 -0400 Received: from mail-pz0-f52.google.com ([209.85.210.52]:48144 "EHLO mail-pz0-f52.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752987Ab2DQPR7 (ORCPT ); Tue, 17 Apr 2012 11:17:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 08:17:53 -0700 From: Tejun Heo To: Frederic Weisbecker Cc: Glauber Costa , Johannes Weiner , Hugh Dickins , Andrew Morton , KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki , Daniel Walsh , "Daniel P. Berrange" , Li Zefan , LKML , Cgroups , Containers Subject: Re: [RFD] Merge task counter into memcg Message-ID: <20120417151753.GB32402@google.com> References: <20120411185715.GA4317@somewhere.redhat.com> <20120412010745.GE1787@cmpxchg.org> <20120412145507.GC11455@somewhere.redhat.com> <4F87042A.2000902@parallels.com> <20120412165922.GA12484@somewhere.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120412165922.GA12484@somewhere.redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hello, Frederic. On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 06:59:27PM +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote: > I want: > > a) to prevent the forkbomb from going far enough to DDOS the machine > b) to be able to kill that forkbomb once detected, in one go without race > against concurrent forks. > > I think a) can work just fine with kernel stack limiting. I also need > to be notified about the fact we reached the limit. And b) should > be feasible with the help of the cgroup freezer. kmem allocation fail after reaching the limit which in turn should fail task creation. Isn't that the same effect as the task_counter as implemented? > > Is there anything for which you need to know exactly the number of > > processes? > > No that's really about prevent/kill forkbomb as far as I'm concerned. Hmm... so, accounting overhead aside, if the only purpose is preventing the whole machine being brought down by a fork bomb, kmem limiting is enough, right? Thanks. -- tejun