From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@in.ibm.com>,
Jim Keniston <jkenisto@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Anton Arapov <anton@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:29:57 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120423172957.GA29708@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1335166842.28150.92.camel@twins>
On 04/23, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2012-04-23 at 12:54 +0530, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
> > * Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> [2012-04-23 09:14:00]:
> >
> > > On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 20:37 +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > > > Say, a user wants to probe /sbin/init only. What if init forks?
> > > > We should remove breakpoints from child->mm somehow.
> > >
> > > How is that hard? dup_mmap() only copies the VMAs, this doesn't actually
> > > copy the breakpoint. So the child doesn't have a breakpoint to be
> > > removed.
> > >
> >
> > Because the pages are COWED, the breakpoint gets copied over to the
> > child. If we dont want the breakpoints to be not visible to the child,
> > then we would have to remove them explicitly based on the filter (i.e if
> > and if we had inserted breakpoints conditionally based on filter).
>
> I thought we didn't COW shared maps since the fault handler will fill in
> the pages right and only anon stuff gets copied.
Confused...
Do you mean the "Don't copy ptes where a page fault will fill them correctly"
check in copy_page_range() ? Yes, but this vma should have ->anon_vma != NULL
if it has the breakpoint installed by uprobes.
Yes, we do not COW this page during dup_mmap(), but the new child's pte
should point to the same page with bp.
OK, I guess I misunderstood.
> > Once we add the conditional breakpoint insertion (which is tricky),
>
> How so?
I agree with Srikar this doesn't look simple to me. First of all,
currently it is not easy to find the tasks which use this ->mm.
OK, we can simply do for_each_process() under tasklist, but this is
not very nice.
But again, to me this is not the main problem.
> > Conditional removal
> > of breakpoints in fork path would just be an extension of the
> > conditional breakpoint insertion.
>
> Right, I don't think that removal is particularly hard if needed.
I agree that remove_breakpoint() itself is not that hard, probably.
But the whole idea of filtering is not clear to me. I mean, when/how
we should call the filter, and what should be the argument.
task_struct? Probably, but I am not sure.
And btw fork()->dup_mmap() should call the filter too. Suppose that
uprobe_consumer wants to trace the task T and its children, this looks
very natural.
And we need to rework uprobe_register(). It can't simply return if
this (inode, offset) already has the consumer.
So far I think this needs more thinking. And imho we should merge the
working code Srikar already has, then try to add this (agreed, very
important) optimization.
Oleg.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-04-23 17:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-04-05 22:20 [RFC 0/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:20 ` [PATCH 1/6] uprobes: introduce find_active_uprobe() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 2/6] uprobes: introduce is_swbp_at_addr_fast() Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 14:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 14:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 15:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 10:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-17 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-17 19:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 3/6] uprobes: teach find_active_uprobe() to provide the "is_swbp" info Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:21 ` [PATCH 4/6] uprobes: change register_for_each_vma() to take mm->mmap_sem for writing Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 5/6] uprobes: teach handle_swbp() to rely on "is_swbp" rather than uprobes_srcu Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-05 22:22 ` [PATCH 6/6] uprobes: kill uprobes_srcu/uprobe_srcu_id Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 11:16 ` [RFC 0/6] " Ingo Molnar
2012-04-16 11:31 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-16 14:41 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-25 12:52 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-25 14:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-14 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-14 20:52 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 19:53 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-15 21:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-15 23:44 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-16 10:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-16 21:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 10:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-20 10:16 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-20 18:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-20 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 7:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 7:24 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-04-23 7:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 17:29 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2012-04-23 19:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 20:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-04-23 21:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
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