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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>
To: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung.kim@lge.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Arun Sharma <asharma@fb.com>, Michael Rubin <mrubin@google.com>,
	David Sharp <dhsharp@google.com>,
	Vaibhav Nagarnaik <vnagarnaik@google.com>,
	Julia Lawall <julia@diku.dk>, Tom Zanussi <tzanussi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Our failure on tracing tools unification
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:37:38 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120425163738.GE17992@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <y0m8vhjopvs.fsf@fche.csb>

Em Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:19:35AM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler escreveu:
> 
> mingo wrote:
> 
> > [...]  One thing that would suck is perf being bound by various
> > versions of this library floating out there.
> 
> Could the event parser shared library be ABI-preserving?  If so, what
> would perf have to fear?

Perhaps its because people working on perf grew in the kernel, where we
can change things as we see fit, i.e. change the networking API? Sure,
we can go over the drivers and change them, its all in the same source
tree, etc.

> > [...] We had nothing but pain from external libraries so far [...]
> 
> If the elfutils, newt, gtk, bfd, iberty, zlib, python libraries didn't
> contribute useful and un-rewriteable functionality, perf would not be
> using them.

newt was a pain and will go away, 99% of things rely just on libslang,
but even that one could go, bfd we use just for C++ demangling, so
probably could go too.

- Arnaldo

      reply	other threads:[~2012-04-25 16:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-05 22:47 [RFC][PATCH 00/15] tools: Unify perf and trace-cmd trace event format parsing v2 Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 01/15] perf: Separate out trace-cmd parse-events from perf files Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-06 11:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-06 15:23     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 02/15] tools/events: Add files to create libtraceevent.a Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-06  0:08   ` David Ahern
2012-04-06  0:18     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-06  0:24       ` David Ahern
2012-04-06 11:40   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-06 13:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-06 22:15     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-07  9:08       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-11 15:20   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-04-11 15:38     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-11 17:47       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-11 17:54       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 03/15] perf: Build libtraceevent.a Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-06 11:45   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-06 15:26     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-06 15:51       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-09 17:10         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 04/15] events: Update tools/lib/traceevent to work with perf Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-06 11:48   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-09 17:11     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 05/15] perf: Have perf use the new libtraceevent.a library Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 06/15] perf/events: Add flag to produce nsec output Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 07/15] perf/events: Add flag/symbol format_flags Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:47 ` [PATCH 08/15] perf/events: Correct size given to memset Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-06 11:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-06 12:00     ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-06 12:27       ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-05 22:48 ` [PATCH 09/15] parse-events: Handle invalid opcode parsing gracefully Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:48 ` [PATCH 10/15] parse-events: Handle opcode parsing error Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:48 ` [PATCH 11/15] parse-events: Let pevent_free() take a NULL pointer Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:48 ` [PATCH 12/15] parse-events: Support '+' opcode in print format Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:48 ` [PATCH 13/15] parse-events: Allow '*' and '/' operations in TP_printk Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:48 ` [PATCH 14/15] parse-event: Fix memset pointer size bug in handle Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-05 22:48 ` [PATCH 15/15] parse-events: Rename struct record to struct pevent_record Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-06  3:07 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/15] tools: Unify perf and trace-cmd trace event format parsing v2 David Sharp
2012-04-06 15:11   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-09 10:13 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-04-23 14:47 ` Our failure on tracing tools unification (Was: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/15] tools: Unify perf and trace-cmd trace event format parsing v2) Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-23 15:08   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 15:31     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-04-23 16:07       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-04-24  9:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-04-25  8:05     ` Ingo Molnar
2012-04-25 12:39       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-04-25 14:19       ` Our failure on tracing tools unification Frank Ch. Eigler
2012-04-25 16:37         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]

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