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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@elte.hu,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca,
	josh@joshtriplett.org, niv@us.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	dhowells@redhat.com, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, darren@dvhart.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, patches@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 6/6] rcu: Reduce cache-miss initialization latencies for large systems
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:17:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120427141700.GA12854@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1335477685.2463.128.camel@laptop>

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 12:01:25AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-04-26 at 13:28 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:

[ . . . ]

> > I think I see what you
> > are getting at, though I am having a hard time seeing how to pack
> > it into a linear array.
> 
> Yeah, I'm not sure you can either. Hence me building a tree ;-) But you
> too have a tree, its tree-rcu after all.
> 
> > The idea seems to be to compute a per-CPU list of CPU masks, with the first
> > entry having bits set for the CPUs closest to the CPU corresponding to
> > the list, and subsequent entries adding more-distant CPUs.  The last
> > CPU mask would presumably have bits set for all CPUs.
> 
> Indeed. So the scheduler already knows about nodes (included in the
> default_topology thing), here we're constructing masks spanning nodes
> based on distance.
> 
> So the first level is all nodes that are directly connected, the second
> level are all nodes that have one intermediate hop, etc.. with indeed
> the last level being the entire machine.
> 
> > I take it that there is no data structure listing per-node CPU masks,
> > indicating which CPUs are members of a given node?  Or is something else
> > going on here?
> 
> There is, its cpumask_of_node(), you'll find it used in the above
> code :-) We do the for_each_cpu loop because we need the mask per-node
> and there's no such thing as per-node memory so we fudge it using
> per-cpu memory.
> 
> This could be optimized to reduce overhead if this all turns out to work
> well.
> 
> So in short: for every 'i < level', for every cpu, we build a mask of
> which cpus are '<= i' hops away from our current node.

So this information could be used to create a cache-friendly CPU ordering,
such that CPU i and CPU i+1 tend to be electrically close to each other.
One could solve the traveling salesmans problem, but doing a traveral
of the CPUs following the node tree should be much simpler and come
pretty close.

If someone were to show significant performance degradation due to
RCU's using the smp_processor_id() ordering for its rcu_node tree,
I would try this ordering.  It would cause the rcu_node tree performance
to be much less sensitive to the rcu_node tree's geometry.

> > > +
> > > +     tl = kzalloc((ARRAY_SIZE(default_topology) + level) *
> > > +                     sizeof(struct sched_domain_topology_level), GFP_KERNEL);
> > > +     if (!tl)
> > > +             return;
> > > +
> > > +     for (i = 0; default_topology[i].init; i++)
> > > +             tl[i] = default_topology[i];
> > > +
> > > +     for (j = 0; j < level; i++, j++) {
> > > +             tl[i] = (struct sched_domain_topology_level){
> > 
> > tl[j]?
> 
> No, [i]. See how we allocate an array of ARRAY_SIZE(default_topology) +
> level, then copy the default topology array then continue i by j
> additional levels.

OK, good thing I correctly characterized my comments.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

> > > +                     .init = sd_init_NUMA,
> > > +                     .mask = sd_numa_mask,
> > > +                     .flags = SDTL_OVERLAP,
> > > +                     .numa_level = j,
> > > +             };
> > > +     }
> > > +
> > > +     sched_domain_topology = tl;
> > > +} 
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-27 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-23 16:41 [PATCH RFC 0/6] Miscellaneous RCU fixes for 3.5 Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/6] rcu: Stabilize use of num_online_cpus() for GP short circuit Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/6] rcu: List-debug variants of rcu list routines Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/6] rcu: Replace list_first_entry_rcu() with list_first_or_null_rcu() Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 4/6] rcu: Clarify help text for RCU_BOOST_PRIO Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 12:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 17:28       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 5/6] rcu: Make __kfree_rcu() less dependent on compiler choices Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 12:48     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 13:29       ` Jan Engelhardt
2012-04-26 13:50         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-23 16:42   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 6/6] rcu: Reduce cache-miss initialization latencies for large systems Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 12:51     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 14:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 15:28         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 16:15           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 19:41             ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 19:47               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 20:29                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 22:04                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-26 20:28               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-26 22:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-04-27 14:17                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-04-27  4:36     ` Mike Galbraith
2012-04-27 15:15       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-28  4:42         ` Mike Galbraith
2012-04-28 17:21           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-29  3:54             ` Mike Galbraith
2012-04-24 15:35   ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/6] rcu: Stabilize use of num_online_cpus() for GP short circuit Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-04-24 16:50     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-24 17:46       ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-05-07  3:47       ` Rusty Russell

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