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From: Zheng Liu <gnehzuil.liu@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	Zheng Liu <wenqing.lz@taobao.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] libata: enable SATA disk fua detection on default
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 20:48:04 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120509124804.GA13329@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120509111243.GB29593@infradead.org>

On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 07:12:43AM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 05:30:16PM +0800, Zheng Liu wrote:
> > IMHO, FUA provides a solution that we can get better performance in write
> > cache mode when we do many flush operations.  If I set the disk to write
> > through mode, I won't get this benefit.  Am I missing something?
> 
> If you set the disk to write through mode you never have to flush the
> cache.  So as soonas your number of flushes gets close to the number of
> writes it tends to be a clear win - for ATA the tradeoff is even more in
> favour of write through because the flush command can't be queued yetin
> commonly available standards versions.  So if you have a workload that
> basically needs to flush out every write you win - if you have workloads
> where you have a lot more writes than cache flushes write back mode
> wins.

Thanks for your explanation.  It seems that there still has a problem.
If I set the disk to write through mode, I need to modify my application
to remove all of flush/sync operations.  It is unacceptable for us.

> > Currently, the key issue is that we disable FUA detection for SATA disk.
> > We almost have no chance to change it because it is too complicated to
> > set libata_fua variable when this module is loaded.  So why not give
> > SATA disk an opportunity to enable this feature?  After all, there is a
> > lot of SATA disks that support this feature.
> 
> I'm all in favour of your patch, I just wanted to point out that the
> argument in the description wasn't quite correct.

Thank you.  I will fix it.  :-)

Regards,
Zheng

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-09 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-08  3:24 [RFC][PATCH] libata: enable SATA disk fua detection on default Zheng Liu
2012-05-09  5:38 ` Robert Hancock
2012-05-09  6:19   ` Zheng Liu
2012-05-09  8:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09  9:30       ` Zheng Liu
2012-05-09 11:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-05-09 12:48           ` Zheng Liu [this message]
2012-05-09 13:20             ` Bernd Schubert
2012-05-09 13:23             ` Christoph Hellwig
2012-07-03  9:04 ` Zheng Liu
2012-07-03 20:11   ` Michael Tokarev
2012-07-04  2:47     ` Zheng Liu
2012-07-04  6:36       ` Michael Tokarev
2012-07-04  7:06         ` Zheng Liu
2012-09-09 20:34           ` Arvydas Sidorenko
2012-09-09 20:39             ` Jeff Garzik
2012-08-17 18:06 ` Enabling FUA for SATA drives (was Re: [RFC][PATCH] libata: enable SATA disk fua detection on default) Jeff Garzik

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