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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp@amd64.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@redhat.com>,
	Linux Edac Mailing List <linux-edac@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Doug Thompson <norsk5@yahoo.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v22] edac, ras/hw_event.h: use events to handle hw issues
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 23:05:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120516210514.GA5801@aftab.osrc.amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3908561D78D1C84285E8C5FCA982C28F192EFA27@ORSMSX104.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 08:27:24PM +0000, Luck, Tony wrote:
> > No, userspace will be doing parsing because it is the only sensible
> > thing to do. The kernel's job is to carry out enough information for
> > the user to handle the error in a way which is just enough. No more, no
> > less. It is in no f*cking way expected to make it pretty and in suitable
> > portions so that userspace can consume it.
> 
> My requirement on prettiness was just that the information useful
> to a normal system owner come first. Enough to know how serious the
> problem is, and which component is affected. The fine details must
> be in the "( ... )" part - and will generally only be of interest
> to very sophisticated users.
> 
> We've reached that goal.
> 
> Looking at the next part ... which is how to write useful analysis
> tools that study these logs. We have some common elements in trace
> records - but a there is (deliberately) plenty of scope for drivers
> to add their own customizations. If these bits are going to be
> used by the user mode tools - then they will have per-driver
> parsing code that will be tightly linked to the version of the driver.

This is exactly what I'm trying to explain - the kernel carries out the
information, userspace parses it the way it sees fit.

> Are we happy with this? Once the patch goes it, we have created an
> ABI which will be hard to change.

Yes, very true.

-- 
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Boris.

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-16 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-10 19:56 [PATCH v22] edac, ras/hw_event.h: use events to handle hw issues Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-10 20:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-10 20:55   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-10 22:46     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-10 23:16       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-10 21:00   ` [PATCHv23] RAS: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-11 10:04     ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-11 14:54     ` [PATCH v.23-2] RAS: use tracepoint " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-11 17:02       ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-11 18:53         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-11 20:07           ` Tony Luck
2012-05-11 17:06       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-11 17:10         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-11 22:31           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-11 22:35             ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-12 14:13     ` [PATCH v24] RAS: Add a tracepoint for reporting memory controller events Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-10 21:10   ` [PATCH v22] edac, ras/hw_event.h: use events to handle hw issues Luck, Tony
2012-05-10 22:07     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-10 22:37       ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-11  1:48         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-11 10:25           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-11 12:37             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-11 17:24               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-11 18:38                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-14 13:34                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-14 14:27                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-15 15:09                       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-15 16:05                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-15 16:38                           ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-16 11:22                             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-16 13:16                               ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-16 13:27                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-16 13:32                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-16 13:47                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-16 15:16                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-16 15:47                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-16 16:52                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-16 19:59                                       ` Borislav Petkov
2012-05-16 20:27                                         ` Luck, Tony
2012-05-16 21:05                                           ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2012-05-16 12:48                             ` Steven Rostedt
2012-05-16 15:24                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2012-05-16 17:05                                 ` Steven Rostedt

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