From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Vlad Zolotarov <vlad@scalemp.com>
Cc: "Shai Fultheim (Shai@ScaleMP.com)" <Shai@scalemp.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Ido Yariv <ido@wizery.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/2] Move x86_cpu_to_apicid to the __read_mostly section
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 16:08:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120521140822.GA12976@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1693911.sUneyHzERA@vlad>
* Vlad Zolotarov <vlad@scalemp.com> wrote:
> On Monday, May 21, 2012 02:32:46 PM Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Shai Fultheim (Shai@ScaleMP.com) <Shai@ScaleMP.com> wrote:
> > > Ingo,
> > >
> > > The reason for this, as you pointed out, is the 'cache line'
> > > size (4096 bytes). We see significant false sharing is we do
> > > not move this next to each other.
> >
> > Which write-often variable caused the many cache flushes/fills?
> > cpu_to_apicid is read mostly.
> >
> > I.e. it might make more sense to identify the frequenty
> > *modified* percpu variables, and move them to a separate
> > section. I *think* most percpu variables are read mostly, so
> > it would be more maintainable in the long run to figure out
> > the frequently modified ones, not the frequently not
> > modified ones.
>
> I tend to disagree about the general claim that most per-CPU
> variables are read-mostly: consider the per-CPU data
> structures used in lock-less algorithms like softnet_data used
> in a NAPI. I'm not sure what is a more common - read- only or
> not-read-only per-cpu data, but surely there are both...
Well, a quick tally of percpu variables on a 'make defconfig'
kernel would tell us one way or another?
Here there's almost 200 percpu variables active in the 64-bit
x86 defconfig, and a quick random sample suggests that most are
read-mostly.
I have no fundamental prefer to either approach, but the
direction taken should be justified explicitly, with numbers,
arguments, etc. - also a short blurb somewhere in the headers
that explains when they should be used, so that others can be
aware of vSMP's special needs here.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-05-21 14:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-05-20 15:19 [PATCH v3 0/2] Move x86_cpu_to_apicid to the __read_mostly section Vlad Zolotarov
2012-05-21 9:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-05-21 10:14 ` Shai Fultheim (Shai@ScaleMP.com)
2012-05-21 12:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-05-21 13:54 ` Vlad Zolotarov
2012-05-21 14:08 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2012-05-21 14:56 ` Vlad Zolotarov
2012-05-21 15:21 ` Ingo Molnar
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