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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mcgrathr@google.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	indan@nul.nu, netdev@parisplace.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, rdunlap@xenotime.net,
	tglx@linutronix.de, luto@mit.edu, serge.hallyn@canonical.com,
	pmoore@redhat.com, corbet@lwn.net, markus@chromium.org,
	coreyb@linux.vnet.ibm.com, keescook@chromium.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jmorris@namei.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] move the secure_computing call
Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 15:00:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120524150057.86c14b35.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337875681-20717-1-git-send-email-wad@chromium.org>

On Thu, 24 May 2012 11:07:58 -0500
Will Drewry <wad@chromium.org> wrote:

> This is an RFC based on the comments from Al Viro and Eric Paris
> regarding ptrace()rs being able to change the system call the kernel
> sees after the seccomp enforcement has occurred (for mode 1 or 2).

Perhaps you could repeat those comments in this changelog.

> With this series applied, a (p)tracer of a process with seccomp enabled
> will be unable to change the tracee's system call number after the
> secure computing check has been performed.
> 
> The x86 change is tested, as is the seccomp.c change.  For other arches,
> it is not (RFC :).  Given that there are other inconsistencies in this
> code across architectures, I'm not sure if it makes sense to attempt to
> fix them all at once or to roll through as I attempt to add seccomp
> filter support.
> 
> As is, the biggest benefit of this change is just setting consistent
> expectations in what the ptrace/seccomp interactions should be.  The
> current ability for ptrace to "bypass" secure computing (by remapping
> allowed system calls) is not necessarily a problem, but it is not
> necessarily intuitive behavior.
> 

Because my take on the above reasoning is "why did you bother writing
these patches"!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-24 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-21 18:21 seccomp and ptrace. what is the correct order? Eric Paris
2012-05-21 18:25 ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-21 19:20   ` Indan Zupancic
2012-05-22 16:23     ` Will Drewry
2012-05-22 16:26       ` Will Drewry
2012-05-22 17:39       ` Al Viro
2012-05-22 20:26         ` Will Drewry
2012-05-22 20:34           ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-22 20:48             ` Will Drewry
2012-05-22 21:07               ` Al Viro
2012-05-22 21:17                 ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-22 21:18                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-22 22:20                   ` Al Viro
2012-05-22 21:09               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-22 21:14                 ` Will Drewry
2012-05-22 21:37                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-24 16:07         ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] move the secure_computing call Will Drewry
2012-05-24 16:07           ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] seccomp: Don't allow tracers to abuse RET_TRACE Will Drewry
2012-05-24 17:54             ` Indan Zupancic
2012-05-24 18:24               ` Will Drewry
2012-05-24 20:17                 ` Indan Zupancic
2012-05-24 16:08           ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] arch/x86: move secure_computing after ptrace Will Drewry
2012-05-24 16:08           ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] arch/*: move secure_computing after trace Will Drewry
2012-05-24 16:13           ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] move the secure_computing call H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-24 18:07             ` Roland McGrath
2012-05-24 18:27               ` Indan Zupancic
2012-05-24 18:45                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-24 19:39                   ` Indan Zupancic
2012-05-24 22:00           ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2012-05-25  1:55             ` Will Drewry
2012-05-24 23:40           ` James Morris
2012-05-24 23:43             ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-05-24 23:56               ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-25  0:26                 ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-05-25  0:38                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-05-25  0:55                     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2012-05-21 18:47 ` seccomp and ptrace. what is the correct order? richard -rw- weinberger
2012-05-21 19:13   ` H. Peter Anvin

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