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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@suse.cz>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: processes hung after sys_renameat, and 'missing' processes
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:54:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120606235403.GC30000@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx_oREEd2XS_aG7PJ7dwzWjgx689V_uRPGWpVS01_++6A@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 04:31:51PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Al, looking at i_mutex use and rename, the only odd thing I see is how
> vfs_rename_dir() does the "d_move()" *after* it has dropped the target
> i_mutex. That looks odd. But I guess it shouldn't matter, because if
> we're doing cross-directory renames we will always serialize everybody
> with that rename mutex anyway. Yes/no? But wouldn't it make more sense
> to do it inside the i_mutex? And before we do the dput() on the
> new_dentry?

What we need is ->i_mutex on parents.  And I'm much more concerned about
this: 7732a557b1342c6e6966efb5f07effcf99f56167 and
 3f50fff4dace23d3cfeb195d5cd4ee813cee68b7.

Dave, you seem to be able to reproduce it; could you try with those two
commits reverted?  This stuff is *definitely* wrong with the way it
treats d_move(); there we might get it with parents not locked at all.

FWIW, I'd suggest adding a check into d_move(); new parent must be
locked in all cases and old one whenever dentry has one (i.e. isn't
disconnected).  If you can find a violation of that, you very likely
have found the cause of that bug.

Al, in the middle of really messy bisect right now ;-/  It started with
mips panicing (under qemu-system-mips -M malta) in -rc1; bisect has lead
to merge of akpm's patchbomb - as in "both parents work, merge doesn't,
recreating the merge give the identical tree and no textual conflicts".
I've located the (half of the) problem in akpm branch - that's commit
d6629859b36d953a4b1369b749f178736911bf10 (ipc/mqueue: improve performance
of send/recv).  Merge with it => unhandled unaligned access in the kernel,
merge with parent => no problems.  The other half of the logical conflict
is harder to find ;-/  On the "akpm patchbomb" side it was just a linear
sequence, so doing cherry-pick of all of that stuff to the other side of
merge has yielded a tree identical to the merge one and that allowed normal
git bisect, which has located the point where it breaks.  Can't do that
trick on the other side - there we have shitloads of merges (including the
one from tip, and I *really* hope it doesn't end up being the source of
trouble - topology in that one is horrible).  So I'm doing a kinda-sorta
manual bisect - pick a point with gitk, reset the test branch to it,
merge the ipc/mqueue commit into it, test, pick the next point, etc.
Any suggestions re improving that process?  Short of setting a clone
and doing git bisect _there_, while the original tree is used for
merge/build stuff, hopefully...  Is there any way to ask where would the
next bisection point be with given set of goods and bads?

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-06 23:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-03 22:36 processes hung after sys_renameat, and 'missing' processes Dave Jones
2012-06-03 22:51 ` Dave Jones
2012-06-03 23:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-03 23:17   ` Al Viro
2012-06-03 23:28     ` Al Viro
2012-06-03 23:40       ` Al Viro
2012-06-03 23:59         ` Al Viro
2012-06-04  0:07       ` Dave Jones
2012-06-06 19:42       ` Dave Jones
2012-06-06 22:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-06 23:00           ` Dave Jones
2012-06-06 23:31             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-06 23:54               ` Al Viro [this message]
2012-06-07  0:29                 ` Dave Jones
2012-06-07  0:40                   ` Al Viro
2012-06-07  0:42                   ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-07  1:19                     ` Dave Jones
2012-06-07  1:29                       ` Al Viro
2012-06-07  1:31                         ` Dave Jones
2012-06-07  1:31                         ` Al Viro
2012-06-07  1:42                           ` Dave Jones
2012-06-07  1:45                           ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-07  1:54                             ` Al Viro
2012-06-07  2:08                               ` Dave Jones
2012-06-07 19:36                         ` Al Viro
2012-06-07 20:43                           ` Sage Weil
2012-06-07 23:12                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-06-07 23:39                             ` Al Viro
2012-06-07 23:57                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-08  0:36                               ` Al Viro
2012-06-08  0:42                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-08  0:59                                 ` Al Viro
2012-06-08  5:25                                   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-06-08  5:48                                     ` Al Viro
2012-06-08  7:54                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-06-08 20:20                                         ` Al Viro
2012-06-08  2:08                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-06-08  2:37                                   ` Al Viro
2012-06-08  2:18                           ` Al Viro
2012-06-08 16:22                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-06-08 17:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-11 12:17                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-06-07  1:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-07  0:35                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-07 10:26               ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-07 15:30                 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-08  7:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-08 14:38                     ` Dave Jones
2012-06-08 14:51                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-08 15:01                         ` Dave Jones
2012-06-08 15:11                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-08 15:21                             ` Dave Jones
2012-06-08 14:46                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-06-08 15:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-11 12:17                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-06-04  0:00   ` Dave Jones
2012-06-04  0:16     ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-04  0:20       ` Al Viro
2012-06-04  9:35         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-04  9:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-04 10:49         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-07  0:13           ` Dave Jones
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-06-07  7:07 Miklos Szeredi
2012-06-07 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-06-11 16:02   ` Miklos Szeredi

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