From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC patch 2/5] smpboot: Provide infrastructure for percpu hotplug threads
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 08:01:18 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120614150118.GC2458@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1206141610090.3086@ionos>
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 04:12:14PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2012, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 01:20:39PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > > > I gave it a quick shot, but I was not able to reproduce the hang yet.
> > > >
> > > > Really? I have a strictly Western-Hemisphere bug? ;-)
> > >
> > > I guess I need to fire up rcu torture to make it surface.
> > >
> > > > > But looking at the thread function made me look into rcu_yield() and I
> > > > > really wonder what kind of drug induced that particular piece of
> > > > > horror.
> > > >
> > > > When you are working on something like RCU priority boosting, no other
> > > > drug is in any way necessary. ;-)
> > >
> > > And how do we protect minors from that ?
> > >
> > > > > I can't figure out why this yield business is necessary at all. The
> > > > > commit logs are as helpful as the missing code comments :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I suspect that it's some starvation issue. But if we need it, then
> > > > > can't we replace it with something sane like the (untested) patch
> > > > > below?
> > > >
> > > > Yep, starvation. I will take a look at your approach after I wake
> > > > up a bit more.
> > >
> > > Btw, if that simpler yield approach is working and I can't see why it
> > > shouldn't then you can get rid of the node task as well. The only
> > > purpose of it is to push up the priority of yielding tasks, right?
> >
> > Ah, missed that it calls rcu_initiate_boost() as well....
>
> And looking further, I really don't understand why it's doing
> that. That node thread is only woken by these weird yield timers.
If your patch works out, it indeed might be possible to get rid of
->node_kthread_task. The ->boost_kthread_task needs to stay, however.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-14 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-13 11:00 [RFC patch 0/5] Per cpu thread hotplug infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-13 11:00 ` [RFC patch 1/5] kthread: Implement park/unpark facility Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 2:32 ` Namhyung Kim
2012-06-14 8:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 8:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 8:36 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-06-14 20:01 ` Silas Boyd-Wickizer
2012-06-14 20:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 22:13 ` Silas Boyd-Wickizer
2012-06-15 1:44 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-13 11:00 ` [RFC patch 2/5] smpboot: Provide infrastructure for percpu hotplug threads Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-13 18:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-13 18:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 8:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-14 8:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-15 1:53 ` Tejun Heo
2012-06-15 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-14 8:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 8:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-13 18:57 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-13 19:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-13 19:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-13 20:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 4:51 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 11:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 12:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 13:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-14 14:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 14:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-14 15:07 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 15:45 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 16:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 13:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 13:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 14:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 15:01 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-06-14 15:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 14:50 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 15:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 15:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 16:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-14 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 22:40 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-14 8:31 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-06-14 8:44 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-18 8:47 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-06-18 8:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-13 11:00 ` [RFC patch 3/5] softirq: Use hotplug thread infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-13 11:00 ` [RFC patch 5/5] infiniband: ehca: " Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-18 6:30 ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-18 8:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-24 10:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-13 11:00 ` [RFC patch 4/5] watchdog: " Thomas Gleixner
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