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From: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: Daniel Kiper <dkiper@net-space.pl>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] incorrect layout of globals from head_64.S during kexec boot
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 20:09:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120710180953.GB20075@aepfle.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120710172626.GA6868@phenom.dumpdata.com>

On Tue, Jul 10, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 05:23:08PM +0200, Olaf Hering wrote:
> > I was not thinking of statically allocated pages but some new concept of
> > allocating such shared pages. Shouldnt there be some dedicated area in
> > the E820 table which has to be used during the whole life time of the
> > guest?
> 
> Not that I can see. But I don't see why that could not be added? Perhaps
> the HVM loader can make it happen? But then how would it tell the kernel
> that this E820_RESERVED is the shared_info one. Not the other ones..

Maybe just use a new E820 type for this sort of thing? Its just the
question wether some other OS can cope with an unknown type. From my
reading of the e820 related code a region with an unknown type is just
ignored.

> > Are there more shared areas or is it just the shared info page?
> > 
> > > And I am kind of worried that moving it to the .data section won't
> > > be completly safe - as the decompressor might blow away that part too.
> > 
> > The decompressor may just clear the area, but since there is no way to
> > tell where the shared pages are its always a risk to allocate them at
> > compile time.
> 
> Yeah, and with the hypervisor potentially still updating the "old"
> MFN before the new kernel has registered the new MFN, we can end up
> corrupting the new kernel. Ouch.
> 
> Would all of these issues disappear if the hypervisor had a hypercall
> that would stop updating the shared info? or just deregister the MFN?
> What if you ripped the GMFN out using 'decrease_reservation' hypercall?
> Would that eliminate the pesky GMFN?

I'm not sure, most likely the gfn will just disappear from the guest,
like a ballooned page disappears. Accessing it will likely cause a
crash.

Olaf

  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-10 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-05 21:06 incorrect layout of globals from head_64.S during kexec boot Olaf Hering
2012-07-06  8:29 ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-07-06  8:41 ` Daniel Kiper
2012-07-06 12:07   ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-06 12:56     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2012-07-06 13:31       ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-06 13:53         ` Jan Beulich
2012-07-06 14:14         ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-06 14:50           ` Jan Beulich
2012-07-06 17:29             ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-10  9:33               ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-10 14:14                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-07-10 14:46                   ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-10 14:51                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-07-10 15:29                       ` Ian Campbell
2012-07-10 15:37                         ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-10 15:23                   ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-10 17:26                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-07-10 18:09                       ` Olaf Hering [this message]
2012-07-10 18:32                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-07-10 19:08                         ` Keir Fraser
2012-07-13 20:20                           ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-14  4:54                             ` Keir Fraser
2012-07-15 16:06                           ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-15 17:17                             ` Keir Fraser
2012-07-16 15:46                             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-07-17 10:24                               ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-17 12:34                                 ` Olaf Hering
2012-07-06 15:54     ` Daniel Kiper

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