From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@kroah.com>,
Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com>,
Debian Kernel Team <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>,
OpenSUSE Kernel Team <opensuse-kernel@opensuse.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Fedora Kernel Team <kernel-team@fedoraproject.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Simplifying kernel configuration for distro issues
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2012 18:26:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120713222616.GA2822@zod.bos.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFz_Vv899eXz6F0jtFH=hT4QpB0_2XuS8HySPjHC6s+L7Q@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 02:17:30PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > As long as you don't mind these being added after the fact, I suppose
> > it would be workable. The reason I say that is sometimes, it even catches *us*
> > by surprise. We recently found out our virtualisation guys started
> > using sch_htb for example, and we inadvertantly broke it when we moved
> > its module to a 'not always installed' kernel subpackage. (and before that, 9PFS..)
> >
> > People don't tell us anything, but somehow expect things to keep working.
>
> I think even a "educated guess" config file is better than what we have now.
>
> The *two* requirements (and they're really the same theme) I
> personally think we should have for this are
>
> - I think every single "select" for these things should come with a
> comment about what it is about and why the distro needs it (to show
> there was some thought involved and not just a blind "took it from the
> distro config")
>
> - It should be about *minimal* settings. I'd rather have too few
> things and the occasional complaint about "oh, it didn't work because
> it missed XYZ" than have it grow to contain all the options just
> because somebody decided to just add random things until things
> worked.
I'd agree that should be the goal. It seems like something worth at
least trying to get to. Even if we don't wind up merging them into the
kernel, it will at least lead to a better documented distro config for
every one that tries it.
josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-07-13 22:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-13 20:37 [RFC] Simplifying kernel configuration for distro issues Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 20:54 ` Myklebust, Trond
2012-07-13 21:41 ` [opensuse-kernel] " richard -rw- weinberger
2012-07-14 10:37 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-14 12:12 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-07-14 12:43 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-14 17:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-14 18:51 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-14 19:51 ` david
2012-07-19 14:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 16:48 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 17:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:34 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 17:57 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 18:09 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 17:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-19 17:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-19 18:42 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2012-07-15 10:14 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-15 10:17 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-07-15 21:18 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-15 21:48 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-15 22:09 ` david
2012-07-15 22:22 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2012-07-15 23:06 ` david
2012-07-16 8:24 ` Borislav Petkov
2012-07-16 16:43 ` david
2012-07-16 16:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-16 19:26 ` david
2012-07-16 20:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-16 22:21 ` david
2012-07-18 7:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-18 8:42 ` david
2012-07-18 9:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-07-17 8:03 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-19 16:01 ` Michal Marek
2012-07-16 17:01 ` Alan Cox
2012-07-16 17:05 ` david
2012-07-13 21:02 ` Dave Jones
2012-07-13 21:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 22:26 ` Josh Boyer [this message]
2012-07-19 15:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 15:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-19 16:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 15:45 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 16:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:19 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 17:30 ` Alan Cox
2012-07-19 17:38 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 21:13 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-20 2:44 ` david
2012-07-19 17:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 17:41 ` Alan Cox
2012-07-19 17:56 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 18:13 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-19 18:36 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 21:04 ` david
2012-07-19 22:35 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 22:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2012-07-21 20:47 ` valdis.kletnieks
2012-07-19 18:20 ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-19 18:22 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 18:49 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-19 18:55 ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-19 21:30 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-13 21:29 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2012-07-13 21:50 ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-13 21:55 ` Dave Jones
2012-07-13 22:11 ` Tony Luck
2012-07-13 22:20 ` Paul Bolle
2012-07-13 23:07 ` Frank Rowand
2012-07-13 21:06 ` Khalid Aziz
2012-07-13 21:17 ` Casey Schaufler
2012-07-13 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-07-13 22:13 ` david
2012-07-13 21:59 ` Hans de Bruin
2012-07-13 22:33 ` Jesper Juhl
2012-07-13 22:46 ` david
2012-07-14 9:44 ` Olivier Galibert
2012-07-14 4:18 ` Ben Hutchings
2012-07-14 12:35 ` Josh Boyer
2012-07-19 1:48 ` Steven Yong
2012-07-20 9:47 ` Jiri Kosina
2012-07-20 10:26 ` Sam Ravnborg
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-07-18 9:55 Tom Gundersen
2012-07-22 20:10 ` David Greaves
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