From: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
avi@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jan.kiszka@siemens.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/4] kvm: Create kvm_clear_irq()
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 13:53:15 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120718105315.GF26120@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120718105105.GG4700@redhat.com>
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:51:05PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:36:08PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:33:35PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:27:39PM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 01:20:29PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 09:27:42AM +0300, Gleb Natapov wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:14:52PM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > > _Seems_ racy, or _is_ racy? Please identify the race.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Look at this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > static inline int kvm_irq_line_state(unsigned long *irq_state,
> > > > > > > int irq_source_id, int level)
> > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > /* Logical OR for level trig interrupt */
> > > > > > > if (level)
> > > > > > > set_bit(irq_source_id, irq_state);
> > > > > > > else
> > > > > > > clear_bit(irq_source_id, irq_state);
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > return !!(*irq_state);
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now:
> > > > > > > If other CPU changes some other bit after the atomic change,
> > > > > > > it looks like !!(*irq_state) might return a stale value.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CPU 0 clears bit 0. CPU 1 sets bit 1. CPU 1 sets level to 1.
> > > > > > > If CPU 0 sees a stale value now it will return 0 here
> > > > > > > and interrupt will get cleared.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > This will hardly happen on x86 especially since bit is set with
> > > > > > serialized instruction.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably. But it does make me a bit uneasy. Why don't we pass
> > > > > irq_source_id to kvm_pic_set_irq/kvm_ioapic_set_irq, and move
> > > > > kvm_irq_line_state to under pic_lock/ioapic_lock? We can then use
> > > > > __set_bit/__clear_bit in kvm_irq_line_state, making the ordering simpler
> > > > > and saving an atomic op in the process.
> > > > >
> > > > With my patch I do not see why we can't change them to unlocked variant
> > > > without moving them anywhere. The only requirement is to not use RMW
> > > > sequence to set/clear bits. The ordering of setting does not matter. The
> > > > ordering of reading is.
> > >
> > > You want to use __set_bit/__clear_bit on the same word
> > > from multiple CPUs, without locking?
> > > Why won't this lose information?
> > Because it is not RMW. If it is then yes, you can't do that.
>
> You are saying __set_bit does not do RMW on x86? Interesting.
I think it doesn't.
> It's probably not a good idea to rely on this I think.
>
The code is no in arch/x86 so probably no. Although it is used only on
x86 (and ia64 which has broken kvm anyway).
> > >
> > > In any case, it seems simpler and safer to do accesses under lock
> > > than rely on specific use.
> > >
> > > > --
> > > > Gleb.
> >
> > --
> > Gleb.
--
Gleb.
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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-07-16 20:33 [PATCH v5 0/4] kvm: level irqfd and new eoifd Alex Williamson
2012-07-16 20:33 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] kvm: Extend irqfd to support level interrupts Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 21:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 21:57 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 22:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 22:16 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 22:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 10:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 10:44 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 10:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 10:49 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 10:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 10:55 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 11:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 11:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 11:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 12:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 14:47 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-18 15:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 15:48 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-18 15:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 18:42 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-07-18 19:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 19:07 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-18 19:13 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-18 19:16 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 20:28 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-18 21:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-07-18 21:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-16 20:33 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] kvm: KVM_EOIFD, an eventfd for EOIs Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 13:59 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 14:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 14:29 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 14:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 14:57 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 15:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 15:41 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 15:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 16:06 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 16:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 16:52 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 18:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 20:03 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 21:23 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 22:09 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 22:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 2:44 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-18 10:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-16 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] kvm: Create kvm_clear_irq() Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 0:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 2:42 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 0:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 10:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 13:56 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 14:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 14:21 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 15:20 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 15:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 15:51 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 15:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 16:01 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-17 16:08 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 16:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 16:17 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 16:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 16:45 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 18:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 19:51 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 21:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 22:01 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 22:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 22:22 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-17 22:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 6:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 10:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 10:27 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 10:33 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 10:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 10:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 10:53 ` Gleb Natapov [this message]
2012-07-18 11:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-18 11:50 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-18 21:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 16:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-17 17:09 ` Gleb Natapov
2012-07-17 10:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-16 20:34 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] kvm: Convert eoifd to use kvm_clear_irq Alex Williamson
2012-07-18 10:43 ` [PATCH v5 0/4] kvm: level irqfd and new eoifd Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-19 16:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-19 17:29 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-19 17:45 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-19 18:48 ` Alex Williamson
2012-07-20 10:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2012-07-22 15:09 ` Gleb Natapov
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